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I love the idea of Bob Stitt bringing his offensive concepts to FBS.

But I'm not sure Bob believes that.

When you watch the video that CW posted on the link, you get the sense the Stitt really loves the idea of being the big fish in the small pond.

I could be wrong, and actually hope I am.
 

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I love the idea of Bob Stitt bringing his offensive concepts to FBS.

But I'm not sure Bob believes that.

When you watch the video that CW posted on the link, you get the sense the Stitt really loves the idea of being the big fish in the small pond.

I could be wrong, and actually hope I am.
Mark Farley has had more success at the FCS level than Bob Stitt...Granted he's only been there two years. He brings some radical ideas, but he has absolutely zero experience in recruiting a Division 1 player. ISU fans need to get over this infatuation. If he ends up in Ames, prepare for 5+ more years of disappointment.
 
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I love the idea of Bob Stitt bringing his offensive concepts to FBS.

But I'm not sure Bob believes that.

When you watch the video that CW posted on the link, you get the sense the Stitt really loves the idea of being the big fish in the small pond.

I could be wrong, and actually hope I am.

ISU could pay 10X his salary at Montana. The man would be a moron to pass that up to remain a big fish, coaching graveyard or not.
 

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Mark Farley has had more success at the FCS level than Bob Stitt...Granted he's only been there two years. He brings some radical ideas, but he has absolutely zero experience in recruiting a Division 1 player. ISU fans need to get over this infatuation. If he ends up in Ames, prepare for 5+ more years of disappointment.

A look at his Montana staff is almost all holdovers from the previous staff, Montana alumni, and a couple guys from CSoM that came along with Stitt. He compares the Montana job to Nebraska, in terms of tradition and the fact that there is no competition for attention, saying that FCS job was probably better than half the jobs in the bowl division.

Just the way I read it.
 

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A look at his Montana staff is almost all holdovers from the previous staff, Montana alumni, and a couple guys from CSoM that came along with Stitt. He compares the Montana job to Nebraska, in terms of tradition and the fact that there is no competition for attention, saying that FCS job was probably better than half the jobs in the bowl division.

Just the way I read it.
IMO, if ISU wants to take a step "to the next level" as Pollard puts it, they need to look above the FCS level. Stitt may have some great ideas, but he's never coached at the FBS level in any capacity. ISU needs to look outside of the box, but should not look toward the FCS box.
 

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This just in, the new coach will be Kirk Ferentz. He can commute till he finds a house. Salary. 4.2 million.
 

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. . . When you watch the video that CW posted on the link, you get the sense the Stitt really loves the idea of being the big fish in the small pond. . . .

Iirc, early in the press con he states something like he was going to leave CSM only for an FBS job. But then the Montana job came along, which he considers a top flight FCS opportunity. That is, iirc. . . .
 

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A look at his Montana staff is almost all holdovers from the previous staff, Montana alumni, and a couple guys from CSoM that came along with Stitt. He compares the Montana job to Nebraska, in terms of tradition and the fact that there is no competition for attention, saying that FCS job was probably better than half the jobs in the bowl division.

Just the way I read it.

What did you expect him to say in such a context?
 

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No to Stitt, recruiting is critical if he is hired I will be disappointed.

A certain segment of we fans will be disappointed regardless of who the next coach is; that is, one guy is not the favorite of all. Whoever the guy is, even if I'm not overly enthused about him, I'll get in line behind him (within reason; if it's Chizik, I'm gone ;-)
 

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I have no doubt Stitt is a offensive guru. Honestly we'd prob lose to Montana this year given Wally 15 yd cushions and what Stitt would do with that...however my concern is recruiting...it's the most important factor in this ISU job IMO.

Chris Kleiman would be a better fit IMO. Runs a pro style offense...puts players in the NFL...might be the best developer of low grade talent in the country.

WTS..think I'm more intrigued by Fritz, Brohm, Frost and Wells.
 
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Main reason I really like a guy like Fritz is because of his Juco background. Guy was HC at Blinn and knows juco market well. We'd prob maintain at least the jucos we've got committed and just might get a few more. He's been a winner everywhere he's gone. I find it interesting that he was the first guy the media reported "had interest" in ISU job and now the fritz camp is saying they haven't. Usually he would be eliminated because of that but I do like him.
 
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Chris Kleiman would be a better fit IMO. Runs a pro style offense...puts players in the NFL...might be the best developer of low grade talent in the country.

WTS..think I'm more intrigued by Fritz, Brohm, Frost.

This is his 2nd year as hc I believe. Not sure how many guys he has put in the nfl.
 

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Other guy who I think is prob at the very top of JP list is Matt Wells, Utah St. Wells is young...HC...his offenses are usually top 25 ish but Utah st defense previous seasons have been very good. He's a juco recruiter. His brother is Luke Wells who was on staff under CPR and was maybe CPR best recruiter at that time. Luke was the TE coach under CPR..remember before the ku game CPR was asked about David Beaty coming to ISU as an asst and CPR said they hired someone else? Well that was Luke Wells. And there is a reason why CPR said they made the right hire...because Luke Wells can recruit. Brought in Ernst Brun, Franklin, EJ Bibbs I believe. A Wimberly. Luke was the WR and TE coach for few years here. We had some damn good TEs that's for sure. Any way...Id bet a lot that Matt Wells is arguably JP top choice right now..just a guess. There's that "knows ISU" connection with Luke. I think a staff of Matt and Luke, along with maybe Ayeni would be a pretty good recruiting staff to start. Matt Wells is known for being a tireless recruiter.
 

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This is his 2nd year as hc I believe. Not sure how many guys he has put in the nfl.

Most in Fargo..and I visit there frequently, pretty much give ndsu NC credit to Kleiman. He has coached and developed a lot of talent there.
 
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I have no doubt Stitt is a offensive guru. Honestly we'd prob lose to Montana this year given Wally 15 yd cushions and what Stitt would do with that...however my concern is recruiting...it's the most important factor in thi
Chris Kleiman would be a better fit IMO. Runs a pro style offense...puts players in the NFL...might be the best developer of low grade talent in the country.

WTS..think I'm more intrigued by Fritz, Brohm, Frost.

I don't think it's really Kliemans team. He's not even been Head Coach for 2 seasons. It was his predecessor that built it up. I'd rather have him, but he's stinking it up at Wyoming.
 

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The more I think about it the harder it is to really determine who can win at ISU, because it has not happened.

At first I really wanted a guy that had a ton of experience winning games, but it has to be against equal or greater talent. Someone who uses their brains to win. A lot of Coaches simply win a lot of games that are gimme's against teams that are just not coached well. We need an instinctive coach that doesn't need a sheet to tell them how to manage a game.

Then I think that players win games, and that we need a recruiter. Someone who can bring in talent.

I am kind of leaning towards a recruiter like Alford or Frost. Someone to bring in some players.

Tough Coaching search for JP. he has to get this one right. he talks about preserving a culture that Rhoads was desperate to change.
 

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Not exactly sure.
We definitely need a juco recruiter. One issue we have is the academic standards set by the big xii for freshmen. The juco route allows players that would be partial qualifiers a route around that. It also allows you to rid yourself quickly of a headache player you messed up on. If it's a miss, it's a 2 year miss, not 4. This is huge with what Snyder did.

An an issue I see with some Fcs coaches is they don't have the academic standards that our conference has, and if isu keeps growing, those standards may get tougher to limit growth. I don't know what the MAC sets for entry requirements, but this is a factor that we need to look at.
 

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IMO, if ISU wants to take a step "to the next level" as Pollard puts it, they need to look above the FCS level. Stitt may have some great ideas, but he's never coached at the FBS level in any capacity. ISU needs to look outside of the box, but should not look toward the FCS box.

We aren't going to get a coach with P5 coaching experience so any new coach will have a big step up in recruiting to the B12.