CKJ has got to go!

Clone83

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Brands was able to double up on recruiting classes when he went back to UI from Virginia Tech, I believe, because some of his top recruits to VT were from Iowa.

They followed him back to Iowa and paid their own way (if need be).

I don't think I've seen it mentioned, but when UI hired Gable they were getting big donations from Roy Carver to upgrade their wrestling program.

From a quick Google search, here are a few links about Carver and his wife, the first just a message board, but sounds right.

By "GP":
The Club Team/Regional Training Center approach was introduced many years ago to the great benefit of 1 team: Iowa. Roy Carver, the inventor of the Bandag cold recapping process, donated a mint of money to The Hawkeye Wrestling club. This money was used to retain the top Iowa wrestlers after graduation. The story went that they held separate practices with a curtain separating the Club team from the college team. When the official college practice was over the curtain was drawn and the 2 teams would practice together - perfectly legal by NCAA rules. Iowa went on to win an unprecedented string of National Championships.
Later the Cowboy wrestling club and Sunkist Wrestling clubs formed and benefited Okie State and Arizona State.
It was only a matter of time before other colleges started to embrace a similar system in order to remain competitive.
It is not an easy call to say that no one should be allowed to do this because it is unfair to those that can't. There are many positive results from these clubs. Besides helping to bring the sport to a higher level due to clinics and additional coaching of the younger wrestlers, they have provided a home and financing for those that aspire to become Olympians and pursue their dream. These athletes also become positive role models for the collegians and youth wrestlers.
http://wrestlingreport.com/current_news/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=47144&start=15

Carver-Hawkeye Arena donor was Illinois grad
Carver-Hawkeye Arena at the University of Iowa is named after a Quad-City area industrialist who graduated with a degree in engineering from the University of Illinois.
Roy J. Carver donated $9.2 million during his lifetime to Iowa, including $2 million to help fund construction of the arena that bears his name.
Carver’s passion was not basketball. It was wrestling, a sport he competed in at the collegiate level, and his donation was intended as much as anything to help provide new facilities for an Iowa wrestling program that was growing at the time.
http://qctimes.com/sports/college/c...cle_dea3250c-bd48-5acf-b300-d01537912180.html

A million memories of a Muscatine millionaire
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Shirley Davis/QUAD-CITY TIMES The Cannes, France, villa of Muscatine, Iowa, millionaire Roy Carver was a dazzling place overlooking the harbor where his yachts were docked. The photo was taken in 1977; Carver died in 1981.

... Carver posed for a few pictures at the pool table, then left, flying his own plane to a wrestling meet at the University of Iowa. He was the team’s No. 1 fan.
http://qctimes.com/travel/a-million...cle_fa91bc14-ff2a-5e74-8442-f6e41f7c0c65.html

Lucille Carver remembered for her charitable contributions
MUSCATINE, Iowa - Lucille Carver was known to thousands of people for her philanthropic ventures, including the millions of dollars she and her husband, the late Roy J. Carver, donated to the University of Iowa's medical school. ........
Carver, who was born in Muscatine on July 27, 1917, to Merle A. Young Sr. and Marie Kollman Young, died on Dec. 18 at her Muscatine home, at age 93. ......
Roy Carver began making high-quality contractor pumps in the 1930s at the Carver Pump Co. in Matherville, Ill., and later in Muscatine. Carver Foundry Products was established in the 1950s to supply molds for Carver Pump.
Bandag Inc., a tire retreading company, was established in 1957.
In June 2007, the company was sold to Bridgestone and became Bridgestone Bandag Tire Solutions.
The Carvers began their financial support of the University of Iowa in 1969.
Boyd was president of UI when he met Lucille Carver in 1970.
"She was very gracious," Boyd said. "Her family made some very generous gifts to the university and she was very much part of that."
Lucille Carver, a University of Iowa alum, received the Distinguished Service Award from the UI Alumni Association in 1972.
Roy Carver died in 1981 at age 71, and in accordance with his will, the Roy J. Carver Charitable Trust, one of Iowa's largest private philanthropic foundations with annual grant distributions of more than $11 million, was created.
Lucille Carver served on the board of trustees from November 1985 through her retirement on April 19, 2002.
In addition to the work she did through the Charitable Trust, she was a former board member of Carver Pump Co., Carver Foundry Products, and Bandag Inc.
The past 10 years have been marked by recognition of the contributions of Lucille Carver and her family.
She and her husband had four sons; one, Clayton C. Carver, died in 1983. Two of her sons, Roy J. Carver Jr. and wife, Pat, and Martin G. Carver and his wife, Ruth, live in Muscatine. Son John A. Carver lives with his wife, Marsha, in Rapid City, Ill. There are 15 grandchildren and 12 great-grandchildren.
The University of Iowa located the Lucille A. Carver Mississippi Riverside Environmental Research Station at the Fairport Fish Hatchery on Iowa Highway 22 in 2001. The 7,500-square-foot building is used by hydraulics experts, biologists, geologists and other environmental scientists, as well as students, who conduct collaborative research.
Lucille Carver oversaw the largest gift ever made to the University of Iowa up to that time in 2002, through the Roy J. Carver Charitable Trust in the form of a $63 million commitment to the university's college of medicine through the University of Iowa Foundation.
That donation added to other gifts from the trust totaled $90 million and led UI President Mary Sue Coleman to request the Board of Regents to name the university's college of medicine the "Roy J. and Lucille A. Carver College of Medicine."
http://muscatinejournal.com/news/lo...cle_83032f76-0cc2-11e0-8533-001cc4c002e0.html
 

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Maybe this deserves its own thread, but conditioning Sunday was absolutely embarrassing - IMO. To me, this is unacceptable. Across the board, we were completely gassed. I understand some guys are moving down, but this decision was made last MARCH!! The effects of this cut should not still be felt now. We should be seeing the benefits of these cuts. Unacceptable, IMO.
 

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I still think few got mentally beat up and we can't have that happen. Nardo is better than Cooper, but Cooper got in his head. Brooks is just an animal.

I also heard a few let Thanksgiving get in the way. To much turkey. Can't let that happen.

See how we rebound this weekend
 

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Yet they are still top 5 in the country. Iowa has never taken a step back like ISU has recently.

And how exactly did they manage that 'double class', when taking into account the scholarship constraints you laid out above?

Seems a bit like a red herring. They may not be winning titles but they easily remain one of the top programs in the country--only Iowa has finished in the top 4 each of the past 5 years and they were runner up last season. Slight decline in Iowa City but we've seen a major decline.

Also, I don't believe it is accurate to say that Zalesky was fired for Brands-like results. Pretty clear difference between the two.

Brands' last 5 years:
Big 10: 2-3-3-2-1
NCAAs: 3-3-4-4-2

Zalesky's final 5 years:
Big 10: 2-2-1-4-6
NCAAs: 4-8-2-7-4

Iowa gets ****** about finishing 3-8. At ISU, we are OK with finishing 15th because our coaches and athletes are nice guys and because we had 1 AA/champ. Not to say I expect the former but it is a rather stark contrast.
 

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Maybe this has been mentioned, but if wrestling were a revenue-generating sport, CKJ would be long gone. The fact is, JP doesn't want to pump more money into wrestling right now, so the coach has had a long leash. I am guessing change will come at the end of this season if things don't turn around.
 

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Saw this posted on another board. Iowa has stayed pretty stagnant in the 2-5 range. We have been in the top 15 every year except 11-12, but haven't been competitive with Iowa. Here is a breakdown of statistics vs Iowa since KJ started. Kind of tells the wholes story.

It tells the story that Queso wanted to tell. Since he's back now and was the one who made it. Two matches accounted for most of those takedowns and stalling calls. Would it have been better if those guys had just turned over and gotten pinned quick to help the stats?
 

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It tells the story that Queso wanted to tell. Since he's back now and was the one who made it. Two matches accounted for most of those takedowns and stalling calls. Would it have been better if those guys had just turned over and gotten pinned quick to help the stats?

Didn't realize it was from one of quesos alias. I deleted it, I know his agenda.
 
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Everyone knows how I feel about KJ. Simply he is not the guy! With that said does anyone else think we may have the wrong strength and conditioning coach. All of our guys are "tiny" compared to the other teams on the mat.

As long as the Paulsons have one side and KJ has the other --- Room divided starting with leadership It will remain difficult to get results. So much for CyclOne Nation!
 

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I think we should have every member of the team donate one testicle and kidney. That way they can supplement the lost weight with added muscle. You don't need two.

Thoughts?
 

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Not exactly sure.
I think we should have every member of the team donate one testicle and kidney. That way they can supplement the lost weight with added muscle. You don't need two.

Thoughts?
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Then people pled will complain we have an unfair advantage. Remember when Robles beat mcD and hawk fans complained that Robles had an unfair advantage since he had so much upper body muscling since he didn't have a leg. Same complaints would happen if we won this way.
 

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I'm curious though, seems many were very happy with him since recruiting was getting better, but seems that shine has wore off now?
 

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For whatever reason just watched the ISU-U of I match replay. It validated what I saw Sunday. There was such a discrepancy in strength and conditioning. The problem is systemic and the coach speak of CKJ is meaningless. I've emailed JP in the past and voiced a reasonable displeasure on the state of ISU wrestling and rec'd no response. Has anyone else emailed JP and rec'd a response?
 

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For whatever reason just watched the ISU-U of I match replay. It validated what I saw Sunday. There was such a discrepancy in strength and conditioning. The problem is systemic and the coach speak of CKJ is meaningless. I've emailed JP in the past and voiced a reasonable displeasure on the state of ISU wrestling and rec'd no response. Has anyone else emailed JP and rec'd a response?

Alright, who the hell gets up at 6 AM to troll the wrestling board?
 

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