OT: Making A Murderer on Netflix

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I got 8 episodes in last night...up til 3 am... DO NOT start this series unless you have the opportunity to watch the whole season. Got me hooked!

THIS ^^ . I binged watched Friday and Saturday. Then I watched Dear Zachary last night. Needless to say my wife was not impressed with how much time I spent in front of the TV.
 

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Him or the roommate that did not report her missing 3 days after. Plus those two seem like they are pretty tight....

Go watch in episode two...the second time they talk to that guy. It's about 2/3rds the way thru where they are talking about going on the property. Just look at their body language... I'm no forensic psychologist but that seems fishy to me. I'll try to find the timestamp but they look at each other and it just looks wrong.
 

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Him or the roommate that did not report her missing 3 days after. Plus those two seem like they are pretty tight....

A 25 year old woman, living with a guy as "roommates", who seems to be pretty good friends with her ex-bf??? Not saying there might be a possible motive or a love triangle, but....possible motive and love triangle.
 

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Len Kachinsky took Branden's case for political benefit and it was totally obvious. Making his resemblance to Lou Holtz only the second creepiest thing about him. Setting up his client for a police interview without him present should be grounds for disbarment, but the State of Wisconsin does not seem to take misconduct by the State or officers of the State very seriously.
 

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Len Kachinsky took Branden's case for political benefit and it was totally obvious. Making his resemblance to Lou Holtz only the second creepiest thing about him. Setting up his client for a police interview without him present should be grounds for disbarment, but the State of Wisconsin does not seem to take misconduct by the State or officers of the State very seriously.

Len Kachinsky =
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Just read this regarding the jurors in Avery's trial -

"Perhaps more to the point for Avery, the panel selected Friday includes a man whose son works for the Manitowoc County Sheriff's Department and a man whose wife works for the Manitowoc County clerk of courts office."

Link here
 

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A 25 year old woman, living with a guy as "roommates", who seems to be pretty good friends with her ex-bf??? Not saying there might be a possible motive or a love triangle, but....possible motive and love triangle.
that were never investigated??? I get the anger of the family and brother, but he was not helping the process with his public interactions. In his shoes I am sure I would act the same as most would, they want to know what happened and get the guilty person found....
 

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The judicial system in the State of Wisconsin is horribly flawed. Why on earth would the judge who heard the original case and decided the sentencing be the SAME judge who determines if there is to be an appeal???

But the biggest travesty was regarding the investigator (Michael O'Kelly) hired by Brendan's own lawyer who admitted in the appeal hearing that he was a church-friend with the victim and that the Avery-family bloodline needed to be stopped! He admitted right there that he helped railroad the kid, yet the judge still denied his appeal.

That crying scene (twice) was just jawdroppingly awful. I watched the series again with my family over Xmas and at that scene my dad was like 'oh jesus fu**ing chris t...'
 

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Oh and I want to go on the record and say I feel awful for the family but have no idea how I feel about Brother Halbach.

Seemed like he cared more about the Avery's getting in trouble than finding out who killed his sister. Dude also was one of the only ones involved with her voicemail but was having a hard time remembering anything about the voicemails.

When they tried calling it, her voicemail was full but sometime after, it was not and her brother had the phone. I think that's right.
 

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Finished them and I can't believe all of abuses committed by the authorities. Not sure if he's innocent, but there is no way either of them should have been convicted. I've read the the stuff that the documentary left out and none of that changes my opinion at all. Of all the most ridiculous things in there, the way the kid was represented and the fact that they haven't given him a new trial really blows my mind. Seems like his appeal should have been a slam dunk. I feel so bad for the kid, the only thing he seems guilty of is being borderline mentally handicapped and extremely naive.
 

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Something fishy about the ex boyfriend especially. I don't understand why he wasn't investigated more thoroughly.

Because the Defense wasn't allowed to bring up other suspects and the investigators had already decided who was guilty.
 

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THIS ^^ . I binged watched Friday and Saturday. Then I watched Dear Zachary last night. Needless to say my wife was not impressed with how much time I spent in front of the TV.
For the record, If anyone who hasn't seen Dear Zachary plan on watching it soon, don't watch unless you plan on bawling your eyes out for almost the entirety of the documentary. Highly recommended though. I watched it a few years ago and have been wanting to see it again, but can't bring myself to do it. I just can't put myself through that again. Saddest thing you will ever watch.
 

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For the record, If anyone who hasn't seen Dear Zachary plan on watching it soon, don't watch unless you plan on bawling your eyes out for almost the entirety of the documentary. Highly recommended though. I watched it a few years ago and have been wanting to see it again, but can't bring myself to do it. I just can't put myself through that again. Saddest thing you will ever watch.
Extremely sad. Probably the maddest I've ever been at someone I never knew. **** her.
 

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I don't think the boyfriend or the brother had much to do with it.

But the article linked a few pages back about the suspects that the defense weren't allowed to introduce was interesting. I'm guessing that if Avery didn't do it, it was one of those suspects---most of which were other Avery relatives with shady pasts.
 

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http://mobile.onmilwaukee.com/movies/articles/evidenceagainstavery.html

Read this. Here's my theory on the matter. Steven and Brendan killed Theresa but the police didn't have enough evidence to get a conviction so they planted what they needed to plant to get the conviction.

A big thing that struck me as odd was Brendan claiming that he got his story from the a James Patterson book. However, at the time, Brendan had a 4th grade reading level. I have a hard time believing that he read this book or that this book was read in a classroom setting.

im thinking he either watched the movie, and his lawyers told him it was a book to make it sound better, or they just simply told him to say that
 

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Kiss the girls was also a movie also and released in 1997. Kid was confused about everything probably didn't know what a book was. I don't understand why the DA had the press conference and told that entire story of lies. Zero proof any of that happened. So it is ok for the DA to change his story and not for a slow slow kid
 
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Yeah. What time were you there? I don't know. Morning afternoon or night? I don't know.

It's either dark out or its not.
Wasn't it Lenk that couldn't remember if it was the afternoon or night when he showed up and didn't sign in? I think he had said around 2 at his disposition maybe and 6-7 at a later date.