I'd like a follow up documentary on how he and Barb met and their relationship, lol.
OT: Making A Murderer on Netflix
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I'd like a follow up documentary on how he and Barb met and their relationship, lol.
Tadcych and other Dassey could be investigated.... that or her roommate and her x-boyfriend....
There is a lot of other person's of interest just in the story that could be investigated a lot further then they are and were....
Nancy Grace isn't happy, big surprise. Nancy needs to switch from TV to radio, btw.
http://www.hlntv.com/shows/morning-...5/nancy-grace-making-a-murderer?cid=H57183a10
http://www.hlntv.com/shows/morning-...5/nancy-grace-making-a-murderer?cid=H57183a10
Nancy Grace is a ******* ****, and is no better than the DA who had to resign for sexually harassing a victim. She's disgusting.
Sorry if already posted but a juror apparently came forward and said that they thought Avery was not guilty but feared for their own personal safety and voted guilty.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/entertain...-364234661.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_CHBrand
"The juror contacted us directly ... and went on to describe the jurors ultimately trading votes in the jury room and explicitly discussing, 'If you vote guilty on this count, I will vote not guilty on this count,'" Ricciardi said.
The juror told the filmmakers that they hoped a split verdict would send a message to the appellate courts to give Avery a new trial.
"That was sort of their plan but obviously it didn’t work out that way," Ricciardi said.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/entertain...-364234661.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_CHBrand
"The juror contacted us directly ... and went on to describe the jurors ultimately trading votes in the jury room and explicitly discussing, 'If you vote guilty on this count, I will vote not guilty on this count,'" Ricciardi said.
The juror told the filmmakers that they hoped a split verdict would send a message to the appellate courts to give Avery a new trial.
"That was sort of their plan but obviously it didn’t work out that way," Ricciardi said.
Alright is anyone not thinking the brother and the ex? there was one TV interview that they did that was really really sketchy.
And the fact that it only took 25 minutes to find the RAV 4 is waaay too coincidental, the lot was 40 acres, it would take days do find that if it was already there, and the way it was "covered" up was really terrible, wouldn't they crush it and just get rid of it all together?
Just a lot of weird things that were to supposed to happen, didn't. Like no evidence of theresa ever being in the trailer, much like brendan, no evidence of him.
At the end of the trial, the prosecution even said there is one man, and one man only that did this... Wouldn't that make the defense that much easier? Blows my mind that both of them are in jail.
And the fact that it only took 25 minutes to find the RAV 4 is waaay too coincidental, the lot was 40 acres, it would take days do find that if it was already there, and the way it was "covered" up was really terrible, wouldn't they crush it and just get rid of it all together?
Just a lot of weird things that were to supposed to happen, didn't. Like no evidence of theresa ever being in the trailer, much like brendan, no evidence of him.
At the end of the trial, the prosecution even said there is one man, and one man only that did this... Wouldn't that make the defense that much easier? Blows my mind that both of them are in jail.
The brother and ex rubbed me the wrong way to. Maybe it is just the fact that he works for the Packers though.
I don't know if SA is innocent but they didn't have any conclusive evidence to say it was him imo. As you mentioned he apparently was smart enough to completely clean the garage of any DNA but not properly get rid of the car?
And he let the cops into his house before he was even a suspect, but he leaves her key, scrubbed of any DNA other than his own, in plain sight?
I understand he's not exactly bright, but he's not that dumb.
That juror should be ashamed of themselves if that's the case (which considering they're talking anonymously even though they're free to discuss the case now that the trial is over, I suppose it's a good assumption they are ashamed of themselves).
I was just in a jury selection a couple months ago and you wouldn't believe how many times both the defense attorney and the prosecutor asked the potential jurors if they could vote guilty/not guilty when the other jurors did not.
That is a major conflict of interest. How did the defense allow those jurors to be selected?
yes indeed. That sounds like a pretty clear case for a strike for cause and even if that doesn't work, how could they not use a peremptory strike on them given what their defense strategy was going to be? (framed, incompetent police work)
i think tydeck and the older dassey boy murdered teresa.
one of them was driving the rav when the gas guy saw her vehicle leaving the scene. the two guys got the vehicle stuck in the avery pit while trying to burn the body and needed to tow it out. the
i believe the three guys helping with the search lied about wrongful entry into the auto salvage when they found the vehicle and also deleted voicemails from the victim's cellphone, whcih they lied about.
lenk and colburn know it isn't avery and that the other two did it and have covering it up to save theri jobs and $36 million.
one of them was driving the rav when the gas guy saw her vehicle leaving the scene. the two guys got the vehicle stuck in the avery pit while trying to burn the body and needed to tow it out. the
i believe the three guys helping with the search lied about wrongful entry into the auto salvage when they found the vehicle and also deleted voicemails from the victim's cellphone, whcih they lied about.
lenk and colburn know it isn't avery and that the other two did it and have covering it up to save theri jobs and $36 million.
I was really into this documentary, enjoyed the drama and real life court room scenes as opposed to TV actors but ended up really disappointed in the end. Maybe I've watched way too much Dateline TV or movies that ended up with a twisted different than expected end. Not quite sure why this documentary was produced, unless season 2 has an appeal with a different result. Without regard to the verdict, the law enforcement seemed sleazy and the county attorney is a smug ahole.
wish I WOULD have googled it. Good ******* lord that was depressing and ****ed up. If you have kids, maybe look up the story before watching. What a....ughhhh
That's why everyone is ******, it ended with them both still in prison. This is dateline on crack. Not just
The producers started it when they were students while it was going on. And they knew they were onto something.
Need to chime in here because this is an incorrect understanding. A motion for post conviction relief is to be made to "the court which imposed the sentence". See Wis. Stat. § 974.06(1). This is not a Wisconsin-specific thing and is in fact very common. It is the first step before what you would think of as an appeal to an appellate court, as it is still part of the original criminal action and not an appellate action.
As Steven did, after the trial judge denied his motion(s) (not sure what they were at this point, but I have an idea), he then was still able to go to the Wisconsin Court of Appeals and then to the Wisconsin Supreme Court to obtain relief (but was denied at each stage).
Just trying to share some knowledge and cure some apparent misinformation about the legal system. If you are convicted of a crime, usually you'll file motions with the same judge to try to get out of it before "appealing," per se.
Just finished the series tonight. Wow, what a ride. I have about 99% confidence that Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey didn't do it based on what was shown in the series. The sheriff's, police, and judicial departments in that county are crooked as **** and definitely had it out for Steven. They definitely called in some favors to the state and are protecting their own.
I imagine there is tons of misinformation in a "documentary" like this. If you have ever seen a 60 minutes or dateline story about something you have first hand knowledge of you know how loose these types of shows are with the "facts" as they build their one sided cases. Haven't seen it, might watch it, but the brief research I did leads me to believe the proper people are probably in jail. People outraged should be calling for a new trial not a pardon.
