OT: Making A Murderer on Netflix
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I agree with you on this point. I didn't come away necessarily thinking that Avery is innocent, but I did not come away thinking Adnan Syed is innocent from Serial/Undisclosed/Truth&Justice. I think it is natural to want to believe that the protagonist is innocent in a story, but this is real life. I think that Avery is a suspect, but I don't believe they proved his guilt.
The investigation got a conviction not the truth. Which gives me reasonable doubt. If Manitowoc had actually not been involved the framing defense would not have validity, but they were involved.
The sad part is that there will be no effort on the part of the State to investigate this crime and to find out what happened because they have their conviction and will defend that rigorously.
A lot is going on right now towards trying to get a mistrial. hopefully this is a good week for their attorneys getting what they need. this documentary has many people near manitowoc worried!
I agree we only got mostly one side. What everyone is upset about is how badly the investigation and trial were handled. He very well may have been guilty but they have not proven that which is the injustice.
Except they found DNA in cracks on the floor of the garage, it belonged to SA. There was no clean up of the garage and no DNA from from Teresa was found. Should have been plenty if she was shot multiple times in the head in the garage.
This show makes me angry and really sad for the education system in Wisconsin.
The best part was when Halbach's brother is talking to the reporters about Brendons confession:
Brother: "I think anyone who watches Brendons confession will know that Steven is guilty"
Reporter: "Have you watched the confession?"
Brother: "No I have not"
Amazing how he just makes up his mind instantly.
Brother: "I think anyone who watches Brendons confession will know that Steven is guilty"
Reporter: "Have you watched the confession?"
Brother: "No I have not"
Amazing how he just makes up his mind instantly.
WTF kind of logic is that? Jesus ****** if I ever get a "jury of my peers" I'll just walk into jail myself and skip the 3 weeks of pretend. **** that.
not only is it poor logic, but I'm pretty sure it goes against the very jury instructions that I'm sure they were given before they went into the room.
As dumbfounding as the shoddy police work was, what happened with the jury is the most mind-boggling thing about this case.
I go back and forth on whether or not Avery is guilty but the bottom line is, the investigation was tainted so they have no case against him right now, every piece of evidence found during the 8 day seizure of his property should be thrown out. The most damning thing for the Manitowoc police is that even if he did kill this woman, their presence alone should be enough for a mistrial, why would they be there illegally if not to manipulate the case? That's the thing they can't explain, the thing they have been allowed to lie (under oath) about.
Except it becomes a lot more clear after watching the series what the people are like up there. Very Dur-dur-dur up there. The "smart ones" up there are what we Iowans would call "drive-thrus" or "people that don't go to the movies to watch the films", yeah? Yeah.
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I understand the documentary was one-sided, but if you were to watch just the court proceedings, I don't know how you can't come away with reasonable doubt. The investigation was an absolute mess. The prosecution's theory on the series of events was an absolute mess. The interrogation of Brenden was a ******* joke. The lack of questioning other suspects is a ******* joke.
I seriously lost sleep after watching the show wondering if someone was going to frame me for something.
I seriously lost sleep after watching the show wondering if someone was going to frame me for something.
I wonder if he would even be convicted if they didn't get the Dassey "confession". If they jury truly did make their decision because thy "feared for their safety", it was probably because they heard that Avery raped, mutilated, and burned the victim - which would not have even come up outside of Dassey.
Beyond that, I feel the worst for the parents. They seem like honest, hard-working folk who just got their family absolutely shredded in every way.
Beyond that, I feel the worst for the parents. They seem like honest, hard-working folk who just got their family absolutely shredded in every way.
That was grandstanding at its finest. That really bothered me, and the guise of impartiality that they presented to the public by not allowing the Manitowoc Sheriff's office to participate was nothing more than theater.
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Mike (brother), Scott roommate, and Eric (ex) will all be found out to have, at the least, tampered with the vehicle and lying to police. They deleted TH voicemails from her phone.
Also, Colburn and Lenk called the trio...this will all come out soon. Mistrial!!
Kratz should be disbarred for that stunt and allowing Brendan to be interrogated without his lawyer present. Brendan's ******* lawyer should be disbarred for allowing it as well as treating Brendan as he did. He had no desire to defend Brendan. Sickening.
The excused juror,#11, was excused because his daughter had an accident. He was on record 10 yrs ago that he was going to vote not guilty and not going to change like others did. Remember that one juror was the father of a deputy and another was a family ember of the clerk of court! This accident was set up to get him excused. Fear was now instilled in the jury.
