College Basketball Ruining The NBA?
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Correct. Technically, teams don't have to draft the one-and-done's, but the current NBA mindset causes them to do it. And I agree with Charles that it is to the detriment of the NBA.
They need to make it more like the MLB. Players who are 18 years old are allowed to declare for the draft and hire an agent. If they are not drafted, or decide to not sign with the team that drafted them, then they can go to college. If that happens, the team gets a compensatory pick for the player in the following years draft. Once a player enrolls at a college, then they do not become eligible for the draft until they are 21 or have completed their junior year, whichever happens first.
I don't think we should put rules on when they can be drafted. If they are good enough then why make them take a seat in a college class when they are going to leave anyway. Pretty hypocritical imo. If the kid is ready let him be drafted. If the kid isn't ready then don't draft him and draft someone who can help sooner. The NBA is doing it to themselves. I like the idea of really using the NBADL to develop players who aren't "college material" and who aren't quite ready for the NBA. It would make the NBADL more attractive to watch too!
demoncore1031
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I'm just going to act like you're joking right? The NBA team talent-wise is trash. You don't have to look any further than the Miami Heat Toronto Raptors series. That is not good basketball those are not good teams. The NBA really only has about 2 or 3 teams even worth watching.
And I'm a huge NBA guy.
Maybe it's because I'm a bit older and was immersed in the eighties and nineties NBA but I just look at some of these guys that are "stars" in this league and I just shake my head.
Exactly. This very eventuality was predicted back when the last player contract was being negotiated. A number of NBA veterans spoke about the lack of preparedness of players who come into the league young and how the level of play would deteriorate, but the nearly all of them (except for Barkley) buckled under political pressure from certain sectors and dropped their opposition.
So far, NBA revenue doesn't seem to be suffering, so it seems that there will be no incentive to change anything.
I disagree with this, just look at the West the last few years before this year. It was a historically great conference, teams winning 45 games and missing the playoffs. The first round two years ago was unbelievable. There was not a ton more talent in the league in the 90's or the 80's. In 1996, you had a 40 win T'Wolves team as a six seed in the playoffs. In the 80's, the West outside of the Lakers and occasional Rockets team was pretty terrible as a whole, not much different from the East recently. As much as I like Barkley, his comments aren't much different than Oscar Robertson's, all these old guys think their era was the best and the new guys couldn't hack it. The amount of scouting and game planning teams do is so far ahead of what was done even just 10-15 years ago.
I think the last couple years the NBA has really appeared watered down. Look at the East. The Cavs are the only legit team. No other team in the playoffs even has a superstar. Wade is the closest but he is past his prime. I think this played a big part in the Warriors breaking the record and doing it easily.
I don't think Chuck is blaming college basketball. I have heard him say numerous times the NBA needs to change the draft eligible rules.
I don't think Chuck is blaming college basketball. I have heard him say numerous times the NBA needs to change the draft eligible rules.
Not happening, the NBA isn't going back to having to take high school kids. Not having to scout high schoolers plus getting a year of great, free marketing from the NCAA is not something the NBA is going to give up. I do think they will push for 2 years and done at some point soon. I'm surprised how slow it has taken some teams to embrace the D-League, I think eventually every team will have their own D-League team and rosters will expand to include more spots for development players too but that may take 10-15 years.
Thread title is wrong (and not what Chuck said). The NBA is ruining the NBA. No one is forcing the teams to draft these players. If the market valued staying in college, players would follow suit. No one to blame but themselves.
I agree. The current set up is hurting both the college game and the NBA. But who is at fault? Perhaps if the teams actually drafted proven guys (oh look G. Niang) vs a guy that could dribble past a chair (chairman Yi), it might help. The fact that their needs to be rules put in place to off set the stupidity of NBA front office guys in their drafting is the issue. For every Lebron James there are 50? Robert Swifts. Team's management for some reason prefer to roll the dice looking for the low odd powerball. The Spurs are probably the only team that resists this and look at there success.
One and done helps the NBA a ton. Look at a guy like Cliff Alexander that would have been a top 5-10 pick for sure (maybe even top 3 or #1) and the time in college completely saved an NBA team from a wasted pick and wasted $. There are lots of players like that.
Not sure I follow, the Spurs love to draft high upside foreign guys, especially in the second round. They've nailed a lot of these picks and it's been a huge reason for their success. Taking a "proven" four year college guy over Parker, Ginobili or Splitter would not have helped them. Cashing in a few of these lottery type picks has been every bit as important to their success as drafting Duncan.
Changing the current rule will would require an agreement between the NBA owners and players union.
I can kinda see why current players would not want to change. If you are an NBA sub, you would want the new players entering the league to be as raw as possible so that they would possibly wash out before they could take your spot.
I can kinda see why current players would not want to change. If you are an NBA sub, you would want the new players entering the league to be as raw as possible so that they would possibly wash out before they could take your spot.
