***Official USMNT Thread***

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It seems like country's care more about the euros and copa than the Olympics
Men's soccer at the Olympics is an Under-23 tournament with I think a couple or 3 spots available to players over that age. So where at the Euro's or Copa tournaments you see more or less the full senior team, at the Olympics you get teams of younger players, some still big stars like Neymar for example, but also lesser known young players.
 

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Men's soccer at the Olympics is an Under-23 tournament with I think a couple or 3 spots available to players over that age. So where at the Euro's or Copa tournaments you see more or less the full senior team, at the Olympics you get teams of younger players, some still big stars like Neymar for example, but also lesser known young players.
That's kind of stupid
 

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It's basically because FIFA doesn't want the Olympics to rival the World Cup.
 

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I was at the friendly vs Bolivia on Saturday. I came away impressed with Zardes, Yedlin and Nagbe. Bolivia seemed pretty disinterested in the second half though, so that 4-0 result was equal parts promising and misleading. There were a couple times where Bolivia's counter was poorly executed and fell flat. Columbia is a different monster.

I'll echo the idea of keeping Bradley at DM. He has far better vision than Beckerman, IMO.
 

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Beckerman is painful to watch for me.

I admire the dude's grit and willingness to just do all the defensive dirty work for the team (along with his dreadly lion tattoo), but he's lost a step and we really should be putting him out to pasture. Especially when D mid is clearly Bradley's best position. However, I'm not holding my breath that Jurgen is going to give up the "Bradley is a 10" experiment anytime soon.
 

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I admire the dude's grit and willingness to just do all the defensive dirty work for the team (along with his dreadly lion tattoo), but he's lost a step and we really should be putting him out to pasture. Especially when D mid is clearly Bradley's best position. However, I'm not holding my breath that Jurgen is going to give up the "Bradley is a 10" experiment anytime soon.

Ya Beckerman is the guy I like to play with in pick up games that you can count on to never end up as a striker by the end of the game. Props to the guy though it looks like he's NEVER going to get there on tackles or interceptions but somehow manages to win the ball 50% of the time. Just time for something more dynamic there.
 

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United states filed protest against Jermaine Jones and Bobby Woods cards doubt anything will come out of it tho

http://www.espnfc.com/united-states/story/2896372/united-states-files-protest-against-jermaine-jones-and-bobby-wood-cards-vs-ecuador
 

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A bunch of England National Team writers want Jurgen for their new manager.

I don't think he's leaving with a family in the US.
 
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So for those watching this whole US Youth Clubs suing the MLS players union story.

Here's the PU reaction to the class action lawsuit
https://twitter.com/thomasfloyd10/status/749382098104963072

From what I understand is, MLS, USSF, etc. want Youth Clubs to be able to collect solidarity payments (Meaning any club that a player signed with is able to collect transfer money as long as they left in the middle of the contract without being released or expiring, As mandated by FIFA, also a way for Youth Clubs to veer away from Pay 2 Play. Basically due to MLS rules, MLS Clubs collect the solidarity payment but no one else beyond them in the US can collect them. So when Yedlin was sold to Tottenham, MLS (since the league technically owns all players) and Seattle collected money, no one else, like Crossfire USA, the Youth Academy he trained at, and is one of the clubs that are plantiffs in the class action lawsuit against the PU)

I'm still trying to understand the whole situation but it seems like the PU is holding everything back because they fear that it could mean less of a chance in the next CBA of a higher minimum wage, (Currently $50,000, which many players are on because LOLMLS)
 
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I think using FIFA as an argument or model to represent anything is laughable. It would be like the NBA paying AAU teams in basketball when players switch teams.

These money grubbing youth clubs need to drop it and slink back away. Nobody owes you anything.
 

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So did the player sign a contract with the youth club or the MLS initially? And are the players breaking any contract when they are moved?

It seems to me that it all depends on whether the youth clubs also claim rights (I cringe at the phrase owned that soccer uses) of the player. If the player leaves the youth club while under contract then the youth team should still benefit until the expiration of that contract. If there is no contract then I don't see what the issue is. If the youth club feel entitled to a financial windfall due to the success of a player they should approach the player. It's no different than college teams approaching alums in the NFL to donate to the college. Oklahoma is not going to the Vikings asking for money because of Adrian Peterson's success.
 

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I think using FIFA as an argument or model to represent anything is laughable. It would be like the NBA paying AAU teams in basketball when players switch teams.

These money grubbing youth clubs need to drop it and slink back away. Nobody owes you anything.

Well the problem is that, with Pay 2 Play, children of those less than fortunate families can't afford to pay to be a part of these clubs, which can restrict the talent pool.

These clubs that are suing don't happen to have an affiliation with an MLS Club and don't have the funds at hand to steer away from being Pay 2 Play.

So did the player sign a contract with the youth club or the MLS initially? And are the players breaking any contract when they are moved?

I think Yedlin may have been a HGP (Meaning he could skip the drafting system and sign with Seattle.), so Youth Club but then MLS Clubs started setting up academies.
 
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Well the problem is that, with Pay 2 Play, children of those less than fortunate families can't afford to pay to be a part of these clubs, which can restrict the talent pool.

These clubs that are suing don't happen to have an affiliation with an MLS Club and don't have the funds at hand to steer away from being Pay 2 Play.



I think Yedlin may have been a HGP (Meaning he could skip the drafting system and sign with Seattle.), so Youth Club but then MLS Clubs started setting up academies.

And?