Game of Thrones Season 6

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My DVR cut off the inside episode commentary. Can anyone post a synopsis? Was Arya really hurt? I hope not and this was all a trap. If so, that was incredibly stupid. No way she survives those wounds much less runs around Bravos.

Edit: Just watched it on YouTube. Stupid. The waif didn't just slash at Arya. She stuck it in to the hilt and twisted. No way she didn't puncture something - intestine, stomach, something.
 
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That was the most disappointing episode I can remember. And so much of it makes zero sense. Yes I got stabbed a whole bunch but at least my cool plan to lure you to my lair worked. Sorry, innocent actress that I liked. You had to suffer so my plan looked realistic.

Hey, Brienne, march all the way to Riverrun for no reason.
Hey Tommen, remember that time when you were crying because you didn't help your mom? Good thing you fixed that. Or not.

Thank god that Bronn and the Hound don't let us down.

This show might not be for you. Seem to just complain because it doesn't fit your plan.
Arya didn't have a plan, she just acted dumb and got stabbed.
Brienne left with nothing. Or did she... Maybe Jaime sends help for her, maybe not. Not everything works out.
Tom men is ***** whipped. He does what the puppet master demands.
And yes, thank god for them.

I was more dissapointed by them not showing more of the Maureen attack. I am fully expecting the Greyjoys to come in and **** up the slave masters boats. Epic entrance to win favor with Dany.
Arya heading back, let's hope there is more than Boltons left when she gets there.
Sad we didn't get to see the Blackfish go down fighting.
Judging from the previews, our heroes in the North look to be in big trouble.
 

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What were the rumors that Qyburn mentioned to Cersei as being more than rumors?
I don't think anything has been mentioned - its more a ploy of the writers since the story at Kings Landing has stalled. This leaves the audience interested and to speculate what they found - my guess is the dragonfire left by the Mad King
 

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This show might not be for you. Seem to just complain because it doesn't fit your plan.
Arya didn't have a plan, she just acted dumb and got stabbed.
Brienne left with nothing. Or did she... Maybe Jaime sends help for her, maybe not. Not everything works out.
Tom men is ***** whipped. He does what the puppet master demands.
And yes, thank god for them.

I was more dissapointed by them not showing more of the Maureen attack. I am fully expecting the Greyjoys to come in and **** up the slave masters boats. Epic entrance to win favor with Dany.
Arya heading back, let's hope there is more than Boltons left when she gets there.
Sad we didn't get to see the Blackfish go down fighting.
Judging from the previews, our heroes in the North look to be in big trouble.

You do not understand what I am saying. What was the point of Arya's story arc? Why did we watch so much of her in Bravos if, at the end, she couldn't stand on a bridge and watch out for an assassin that she clearly knew was coming for her? She "acted dumb and got stabbed"?? Really? That is what we were waiting to see? And why did the FL repeat over and over that she had to let go of her former life and become "no one" if at the end he smiles when she says she is Arya? I am glad you like shows with huge plot holes, but I don't. And the fact that you have to make up things for Brienne in order to make her story mean something, shows how much of a problem there is.

What can we expect Arya to do? She can't change faces. She didn't really learn to fight much except in the dark I guess. And Daenarys? She shows up in the middle of a siege, with ships raining fire on her city and she lets her dragon fly off? How are you not completely annoyed by that? Three passes from Drogon and that fleet is toast.
 

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I don't think anything has been mentioned - its more a ploy of the writers since the story at Kings Landing has stalled. This leaves the audience interested and to speculate what they found - my guess is the dragonfire left by the Mad King

You are correct.
 

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I don't think anything has been mentioned - its more a ploy of the writers since the story at Kings Landing has stalled. This leaves the audience interested and to speculate what they found - my guess is the dragonfire left by the Mad King

I'm guessing she is uncovering the plot to kill Joffery. She's going to use it to screw over Margery somehow. Whether that's putting her grandmother in trial or Margery herself. She will find a way to win back Tommen. In the end I think it'll be her scheme that kills Tommen. According to the prophecy, he will die before her and she will weep tears.
 

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You do not understand what I am saying. What was the point of Arya's story arc? Why did we watch so much of her in Bravos if, at the end, she couldn't stand on a bridge and watch out for an assassin that she clearly knew was coming for her? She "acted dumb and got stabbed"?? Really? That is what we were waiting to see? And why did the FL repeat over and over that she had to let go of her former life and become "no one" if at the end he smiles when she says she is Arya? I am glad you like shows with huge plot holes, but I don't. And the fact that you have to make up things for Brienne in order to make her story mean something, shows how much of a problem there is.

What can we expect Arya to do? She can't change faces. She didn't really learn to fight much except in the dark I guess. And Daenarys? She shows up in the middle of a siege, with ships raining fire on her city and she lets her dragon fly off? How are you not completely annoyed by that? Three passes from Drogon and that fleet is toast.

It's a show with dragons, witches, people being brought back from the dead, etc... and YOU'RE mad about PLOT LINES?
 

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You do not understand what I am saying. What was the point of Arya's story arc? Why did we watch so much of her in Bravos if, at the end, she couldn't stand on a bridge and watch out for an assassin that she clearly knew was coming for her? She "acted dumb and got stabbed"?? Really? That is what we were waiting to see? And why did the FL repeat over and over that she had to let go of her former life and become "no one" if at the end he smiles when she says she is Arya? I am glad you like shows with huge plot holes, but I don't. And the fact that you have to make up things for Brienne in order to make her story mean something, shows how much of a problem there is.

What can we expect Arya to do? She can't change faces. She didn't really learn to fight much except in the dark I guess. And Daenarys? She shows up in the middle of a siege, with ships raining fire on her city and she lets her dragon fly off? How are you not completely annoyed by that? Three passes from Drogon and that fleet is toast.


​Why are you so sure that this won't happen in the next episode?
 

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You do not understand what I am saying. What was the point of Arya's story arc? Why did we watch so much of her in Bravos if, at the end, she couldn't stand on a bridge and watch out for an assassin that she clearly knew was coming for her? She "acted dumb and got stabbed"?? Really? That is what we were waiting to see? And why did the FL repeat over and over that she had to let go of her former life and become "no one" if at the end he smiles when she says she is Arya? I am glad you like shows with huge plot holes, but I don't. And the fact that you have to make up things for Brienne in order to make her story mean something, shows how much of a problem there is.

What can we expect Arya to do? She can't change faces. She didn't really learn to fight much except in the dark I guess. And Daenarys? She shows up in the middle of a siege, with ships raining fire on her city and she lets her dragon fly off? How are you not completely annoyed by that? Three passes from Drogon and that fleet is toast.
How can you say Aryas storyline was pointless? Just because she thought she could skip town before the waif tried to kill her? Seems like a smart plan to me, Waif just moved too fast. I think It's quite unclear what JH thinks about Arya. He recruited her with a pitch to kill her enemy's. He tested her resolve to leave the world behind and she not only deceived them holding on to her self, but killed a deadly assassin. Maybe JH was impressed. Not a perfect ending but more than a sufficient one for me.
Brienne trip might have been a waste, I believe it will bare fruit one way or another.
As for Dany, it's unclear how much control she has of the dragon right now. You act like because she rode him twice, she is all of a sudden Aegon the conqueror.
This is still by far one of the best written tv shows out there and people still **** and moan about it constantly. I just don't get it.
 

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You do not understand what I am saying. What was the point of Arya's story arc? Why did we watch so much of her in Bravos if, at the end, she couldn't stand on a bridge and watch out for an assassin that she clearly knew was coming for her? She "acted dumb and got stabbed"?? Really? That is what we were waiting to see? And why did the FL repeat over and over that she had to let go of her former life and become "no one" if at the end he smiles when she says she is Arya? I am glad you like shows with huge plot holes, but I don't. And the fact that you have to make up things for Brienne in order to make her story mean something, shows how much of a problem there is.

What can we expect Arya to do? She can't change faces. She didn't really learn to fight much except in the dark I guess. And Daenarys? She shows up in the middle of a siege, with ships raining fire on her city and she lets her dragon fly off? How are you not completely annoyed by that? Three passes from Drogon and that fleet is toast.

Yes, Arya was dumb by allowing herself to get stabbed on the bridge. And yes, Arya got incredibly lucky to survive and kill the Waif. But she did have a plan in place. You don't just slash out a candle, putting the Waif in her own element, unless you know something she doesn't know. And Jaqen smiled because he knew Arya was never going to become "a girl" and become one of the Faceless - Arya was finally honest with herself and now knows who she is.

And how do you know Arya didn't learn anything? She obviously learned how to kill the Waif in her own element. She learned how to remove the Waif's face from her body. She certainly knows how to disguise herself now. Most importantly, she knows who she is now. She learned a lot more in Braavos than you give her credit for.

As far as you criticizing Dany for not having Drogon burn down all the ships in Slaver's Bay, talk about a plot hole all of your own. What is the one thing Dany has been saying all season, hell, the last several seasons? That she needs boats to take an army to conquer Westeros. So your suggestion is to burn down a bay full of ships? Seems counterproductive, especially since she has no idea the Greyjoys are coming.
 

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It's a show with dragons, witches, people being brought back from the dead, etc... and YOU'RE mad about PLOT LINES?

Yes. You insinuate that having those things means you shouldn't or don't need plots that make sense? Do you know what a plot is?

Here let me help you: "the main events of a play, novel, movie, or similar work, devised and presented by the writer as an interrelated sequence."

The key part there is interrelated sequence. How does ANY of Arya's plot line relate? Her "training" sequences certainly didn't have anything to do with her killing the waif except for being blind. And if the waif was such an amazing T-1000, how the heck could she not fight better than a partially trained, thrice stabbed, still high on milk of the poppy Arya? If you enjoy avoiding those kinds of questions, then I guess I am glad there are so many shows you love.
 

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Yes, Arya was dumb by allowing herself to get stabbed on the bridge. And yes, Arya got incredibly lucky to survive and kill the Waif. But she did have a plan in place. You don't just slash out a candle, putting the Waif in her own element, unless you know something she doesn't know. And Jaqen smiled because he knew Arya was never going to become "a girl" and become one of the Faceless - Arya was finally honest with herself and now knows who she is.

And how do you know Arya didn't learn anything? She obviously learned how to kill the Waif in her own element. She learned how to remove the Waif's face from her body. She certainly knows how to disguise herself now. Most importantly, she knows who she is now. She learned a lot more in Braavos than you give her credit for.

As far as you criticizing Dany for not having Drogon burn down all the ships in Slaver's Bay, talk about a plot hole all of your own. What is the one thing Dany has been saying all season, hell, the last several seasons? That she needs boats to take an army to conquer Westeros. So your suggestion is to burn down a bay full of ships? Seems counterproductive, especially since she has no idea the Greyjoys are coming.

One wonders how they will take the boats without destroying them.
 

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How can you say Aryas storyline was pointless? Just because she thought she could skip town before the waif tried to kill her? Seems like a smart plan to me, Waif just moved too fast. I think It's quite unclear what JH thinks about Arya. He recruited her with a pitch to kill her enemy's. He tested her resolve to leave the world behind and she not only deceived them holding on to her self, but killed a deadly assassin. Maybe JH was impressed. Not a perfect ending but more than a sufficient one for me.
Brienne trip might have been a waste, I believe it will bare fruit one way or another.
As for Dany, it's unclear how much control she has of the dragon right now. You act like because she rode him twice, she is all of a sudden Aegon the conqueror.
This is still by far one of the best written tv shows out there and people still **** and moan about it constantly. I just don't get it.

Think about this for a second. She managed to book passage for herself.... and then goes and stands on the middle of a bridge?
 

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Think about this for a second. She managed to book passage for herself.... and then goes and stands on the middle of a bridge?

And?
If only she had the foresight of someone viewing all the pieces via cutscenes like you. It's so easy.
 

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Yes, Arya was dumb by allowing herself to get stabbed on the bridge. And yes, Arya got incredibly lucky to survive and kill the Waif. But she did have a plan in place. You don't just slash out a candle, putting the Waif in her own element, unless you know something she doesn't know. And Jaqen smiled because he knew Arya was never going to become "a girl" and become one of the Faceless - Arya was finally honest with herself and now knows who she is.

And how do you know Arya didn't learn anything? She obviously learned how to kill the Waif in her own element. She learned how to remove the Waif's face from her body. She certainly knows how to disguise herself now. Most importantly, she knows who she is now. She learned a lot more in Braavos than you give her credit for.

As far as you criticizing Dany for not having Drogon burn down all the ships in Slaver's Bay, talk about a plot hole all of your own. What is the one thing Dany has been saying all season, hell, the last several seasons? That she needs boats to take an army to conquer Westeros. So your suggestion is to burn down a bay full of ships? Seems counterproductive, especially since she has no idea the Greyjoys are coming.

Two things:

1) You theory is that Arya had that bolt hole set up the entire time? So she either had the longest burning candle in history or she somehow managed to light it before the waif shows up. If she planned to lure the waif back to her place the whole time, then why did she spend the night at the acctresses apartment? Was she just being cruel? If she planned to fight the waif in the dark, why did she let herself get stabbed on the bridge. It makes zero sense no matter how you look at it.

2) Explain to me how they are going to get those boats from the slavers? And if they do get the boats from the slavers, then what is the purpose of the Greyjoy fleet?
 

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If only she had the foresight of someone viewing all the pieces via cutscenes like you. It's so easy.

So she is a highly trained assassin with a plan who has terrible lapses in judgement that will lead to her death? How much foresight does it take to not stand in public for a day while you wait to escape?
 

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So she is a highly trained assassin with a plan who has terrible lapses in judgement that will lead to her death? How much foresight does it take to not stand in public for a day while you wait to escape?

Partially trained assassin but still Arya. Once again, she tried to skip town with one last look at the beautiful city of Bravos. She still escaped the Waif once and killed her. Quit crying
 

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Partially trained assassin but still Arya. Once again, she tried to skip town with one last look at the beautiful city of Bravos. She still escaped the Waif once and killed her. Quit crying

What happened in Dorne is a ton worse than anything that happened in this episode.
 

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Watching it back once more, the scene of Arya would have been way better if at the end, JH walked over to an empty spot on the wall and pulled his face off and placing it in the spot. Then the camera pans up to show Syrial Forell (sp).
 

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This show is struggling a bit without GRRM's books to follow. It seems ridiculous to say about a show involving dragons and zombies and magic etc, but there was always an underlying gritty realism to the human aspects of it. I can't believe Arya actually got stabbed like that and was fine. Those wounds should have killed her or at least left her laid up for months. They've also started taking to ignoring the size of the world. Everyone seems to be instantly teleporting around the map. I'm sure the Greyjoys will have completed construction on 100 ships and sailed them across the narrow sea by episode 10.