Game of Thrones Season 6
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Yikes...I hadn't heard about 6 episodes for season 8. That sucks if true. No doubt the story will be moving along at a quick rate is only 15 episodes remain!
Volanquar is supposed to mean little brother, correct? Well Tommen would be the Volanquar to Joffrey, who was clearly Cersei's favorite. The Hound, Jamie, and Tyrion also fit this definition. Nice and broad to keep fans speculating.
EDIT: Update following S6E9 - that episode was incredible. So I was wrong that the show peaked after S6E4,5. Dany listening to Tyrion's advice in spite of initial impressions, the dragons, and the incredible move Gray Worm pulled to execute the two masters - the Meereen battle by itself was great. The follow up meeting with the Greyjoys was solid too. And all of that was overshadowed by the best medieval/fantasy battle scene I've ever seen (as good as Saving Private Ryan?). And that was in a tv series and not a movie! It was awesome. I loved how Jon fell for Ramsey's trick in spite of being warned by Sansa. I loved the confusion they showed in the battle. The suffocation part was amazing. And the director/producers had me believing that the Starks were going to lose. So I completely forgive them for the cliche "calvary arriving at the last second to save the day". That even fits into the Sansa story and adds depth. Wow.
A couple of my thoughts on the show:
I have thoroughly enjoyed GoT but I have a sad feeling that it just peaked here in season 6 with episodes 4 and 5. I don't think there will be any resolution to the storylines that are as triumphant as Dany taking over the Dothraki or as devastating as the full back story of Hodor. Maybe I'll be wrong. But I think I enjoy the possibilities and the unknowns of all these stories better now than I will after they are eventually resolved. For example, I was really into Arya's training (maybe Bran was helping train her from a distance? How cool would that be!?) ...and then it ended up being predictable.
Same thing with Jon Snow coming back to life.
In my opinion, the return of Jon could have been more interesting if Thorne had desecrated Jon as an example and thrown his dead body north of the wall and then he was raised into a white walker. Wouldn't that have been fun!? It would be interesting at least to find ourselves cheering for the zombies... Or being disgusted that Jon the White Walker is killing characters we love, ripping Sam apart... etc. It would just be so different from the standard fantasy story.
Or perhaps while Jon was dead he had contact with the Night King and now was changed in some way. I would like it if there were more repercussions from being dead.
Of course, even if the show has peaked, I'm going to keep watching. I'm sure there will be some twists I didn't see coming. And I really enjoy these characters. I'm liking the hound more and more. Same thing with Jamie.
I hope I'm surprised and horrified by the (permanent) death of another major character (ooh maybe now that I've come around on the hound or Jamie, one of them will get the axe...)
I love the idea of the Stark kids getting back together and taking over like medieval Avengers or X-men or something - Arya and Bran have moved from padawans to young jedi's, Sansa is the new politician, Jon the War General, Rickon... unknown yet.
But I can't help but think this is going to be predictable:
Eventually Jon and Dany get together and win the Iron Throne as King and Queen, right? Then they face off with the Night's King. At the end there will be a massive self-sacrifice* that saves the day and defeats the white walkers. And finally, at the very end, the last winner is Tyrion.
*That's my number one prediction. Dany, Jon, or Jamie will sacrifice themselves to beat the Night's King. Mark it down.
A couple of my thoughts on the show:
I have thoroughly enjoyed GoT but I have a sad feeling that it just peaked here in season 6 with episodes 4 and 5. I don't think there will be any resolution to the storylines that are as triumphant as Dany taking over the Dothraki or as devastating as the full back story of Hodor. Maybe I'll be wrong. But I think I enjoy the possibilities and the unknowns of all these stories better now than I will after they are eventually resolved. For example, I was really into Arya's training (maybe Bran was helping train her from a distance? How cool would that be!?) ...and then it ended up being predictable.
Same thing with Jon Snow coming back to life.
In my opinion, the return of Jon could have been more interesting if Thorne had desecrated Jon as an example and thrown his dead body north of the wall and then he was raised into a white walker. Wouldn't that have been fun!? It would be interesting at least to find ourselves cheering for the zombies... Or being disgusted that Jon the White Walker is killing characters we love, ripping Sam apart... etc. It would just be so different from the standard fantasy story.
Or perhaps while Jon was dead he had contact with the Night King and now was changed in some way. I would like it if there were more repercussions from being dead.
Of course, even if the show has peaked, I'm going to keep watching. I'm sure there will be some twists I didn't see coming. And I really enjoy these characters. I'm liking the hound more and more. Same thing with Jamie.
I hope I'm surprised and horrified by the (permanent) death of another major character (ooh maybe now that I've come around on the hound or Jamie, one of them will get the axe...)
I love the idea of the Stark kids getting back together and taking over like medieval Avengers or X-men or something - Arya and Bran have moved from padawans to young jedi's, Sansa is the new politician, Jon the War General, Rickon... unknown yet.
But I can't help but think this is going to be predictable:
Eventually Jon and Dany get together and win the Iron Throne as King and Queen, right? Then they face off with the Night's King. At the end there will be a massive self-sacrifice* that saves the day and defeats the white walkers. And finally, at the very end, the last winner is Tyrion.
*That's my number one prediction. Dany, Jon, or Jamie will sacrifice themselves to beat the Night's King. Mark it down.
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Volanquar means "little brother" yes. But that does not mean it has to be her little brother.
Tommen: could be the Volanquar because he is a little brother and just screwed her over by taking away trial-by-combat
The Hound: could be the Volanquar because he is the little brother to the Mountain
Bran or Rickon: could be the Volanquar because they are the little brothers to Robb
Tyrion: could be the Volanqua because he is youngest brother to them
Victorian: could be Volanquar because he is little brother to Euron
Euron: could be Volanquar because he was little brother to Balon
etc...
etc..
etc.
But more to my point was, what makes you think he is just going to choke her to death, after he just confessed his profound love for her this past episode?
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Cersei: Will the king and I have children?
Maggy: Oh, aye. Six-and-ten for him, and three for you. Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds, she said. And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.
Tommen cannot be the Volanquar since Cersei will watch him die. The Volanquar will choke Cersei to death, hence why the choking comment was made. You're correct that the Volanquar could be any of those (except Tommen) little brothers, however it makes most thematic/dramatic sense to be Jaime (to save the city like the Kingslayer) or Tyrion (pure revenge).
I just don't see it, now that they are on the same side again and working together to strengthen their "deminished" houses name. But I've been wrong before.
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Yea, I am not sure how this would come about. Even if Cersei is convicted by the septon court, and she and Clyburn go crazy and burn down the Sept of Baelor, possibly unwittingly roasting Tommen, I am not sure I see Jaime hating her to the level to kill her.
I think if we lose Ramsey this year, Cersei won't be gone. Maybe Tommen, but will need a antagonist (other than the WW) for next season. Cersei and Tyrion will meet again, and not this season.
I don't think Cersei is nearly as smart as you're giving her credit for. Tywin was always the brains behind that operation, and it's been one reckless decision after another since his death (not that it wasn't beforehand).
It's not that it's incredibly hard to outsmart Cersei, it's that, in her lofty position, most people don't have the chance to do so. But hell - Littlefinger, Varys, and Tyrion are continuously outsmarting her. Hell - had Ned Stark not been betrayed by Littlefinger he would have gotten over on her as well.
Cersei's main advantage is she's always had the ear of and influence over the most powerful man in the kingdom, so, in spite of her idiocy, she's always had the power to do what she wants - first Robert, then Joffery, then Tywin, then Tommen. The High Sparrow has systematically been removing her power from her - first, the respect (or at least fear) of the people, then he took Tommen away from her. Now they've taken away Zombie Mountain by eliminating trial by combat. It's a master play by the High Sparrow for sure, but, as I've said, considering its Cersei, not that hard.
Awesome prediction. I thought of this last night - Cersei tries to burn down King's Landing, just like the Mad King. Jamie kills her before she can, just as he did before. And fulfills that prophecy.
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Preview makes it out to look like Jon isn't having much luck in this upcoming "battle of the bastards" fight. Hard to believe that he'd be brought back to life just to be killed off. And we've now had two episodes without anything from Bran. There are just sooo many story lines they're trying to bring together that it feels like as each episode ends we're disappointed because something was left out. Still so much to cover in the final two episodes. Don't see how they squeeze it all in.
Did Cersei influence Tywin on political matters? Absolutely not. But Tywin turning a blind eye to what he had to know in his heart what Jaime and Cersei were really doing with one another is influence.
I am expecting Jon to win, because Ramsay is just not a big enough character to go much further IMO. They will TV it up with it looking like Jon is going to lose and at the last minute The Eyrie comes to the rescue!
If Ramsay were going to win I would think that we would have seen his handling of Rickon. I mean, that has been suspiciously absent. Ramsay loves him some flaying and he is minus a Reek right now.
I am getting annoyed with show Jon, Sansa and Arya. Just because they are the underdog does not mean they are dumb. Jon made a decision as Lord Commander that was wise beyond his years and really smart. Yet, here he is moping around. You think maybe he should have told Glover he was on his own when The Night King comes for them? Arya just walking around without needle was plain nonsensical IMO. Sansa who is getting tough is still acting dumb.
Anyway, I expect the Brotherhood to be on their way, as well. The Hound was in love with Sansa and I could see him redeeming himself by pledging his sword to her service. I cannot see it that way in the Books, but the show I am not sure why else they would send him North, but then again maybe he will go to King's Landing and join the faith.
I am in agreement that Cersei is going to burn King's Landing to the ground.
I thought about that too, I just don't see how he can, without being a traitor. Especially hard with the Freys there.
Ramsey did murder Walders daughter and possible heir to winterfell. An argument could be made
The problem is Walder probably couldn't care less. One less raven to send out on her birthday (not that he'd ever remember her birthday).
