Game of Thrones Season 6

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right, which makes me wonder what Cersei has up her sleeve because her army would be crushed just by Dany's army, let alone with the Martell and Tyrell army's.

My guess is Euron aligns with Cersei, which at least gives her some naval power (1,000 ships)

I still don't know where she's going to get the extra men though, certainly not from the north and not from the Vale either.
Cersei has no idea that Dany and her force of alliances are coming, I don't think. So it will be interesting to see when she hears about it, While they are on their way over, or after they land in Dorne (I'm assuming they land in dorne)
 

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Yes, but the legitimacy is still in questions. There isn't proof if they did or didn't get secretly married before the baby was born. But yes Rhaegar and Dany were brother and sister, so Jon would be Dany's nephew.

Has Rhaeger ever appeared on the show? I think not, but I can't remember for sure. I know Dany had that other ******* brother who got the golden crown.
 

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Has Rhaeger ever appeared on the show? I think not, but I can't remember for sure. I know Dany had that other ******* brother who got the golden crown.

He has never appeared on the show--only referenced. He was slain by Bobby B before the show and I think the only flashbacks were Bran's using the tree and Cersei's prophesy.
 

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Couple of crazy thoughts I have in my head.

What if Jamie strangles Cersei, he would then be king. Just in time for him to lay the Lannister arms down and give Kings Landing to Dany, because Tyrion is with him, or Jamie kills himself and Tyrion is now King. Probably won't happen that way, but possible.

So Targaryen's wed Targaryen's, but at the same time Sasna and Jon are not brother and sister. Jon suddenly has plenty of options. Granted I don't expect all of them to last the winter.
 

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Littlefinger knows the truth about Jon's heritage right? I swear he hinted at it a few seasons back. Methinks he is going to throw a wrench into the reign of the King of the North.

From what I know, he only hinted that it wasn't rape between Lyanna and Rhaegar. There is no way of knowing that Jon was her kid.
 

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I really hope this comment isn't stepping into "Cave territory" - but did anyone else find it interesting that Loras trial happened to coincide with Pride festivities? I don't really have any other comments about that other than what a unique circumstance given current political and social events happening in our world today.
 

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Cersei has no idea that Dany and her force of alliances are coming, I don't think. So it will be interesting to see when she hears about it, While they are on their way over, or after they land in Dorne (I'm assuming they land in dorne)

right, but this is a tv show, so I assume they'd want to have some drama about who would win (even though we all know who will win). Upon further thinking, if there's more wildfire and Cersei tries to blow up Kings Landing ala Mad King, then I suppose they'd have plenty of drama with Jamie being forced to once again kill to save the city.
 

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So Jamie killed the mad king to prevent him from burning the cept. And now his sister goes and burns it anyway. He's gotta feel like his legacy of saving kings landing is completely irrelevant now. He's absolutely going to kill Cersi and I wouldn't be surprised if he goes through zombie mountain to do so.
 

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So Jamie killed the mad king to prevent him from burning the cept. And now his sister goes and burns it anyway. He's gotta feel like his legacy of saving kings landing is completely irrelevant now. He's absolutely going to kill Cersi and I wouldn't be surprised if he goes through zombie mountain to do so.

maybe him and Bronn. He's no longer capable of beating someone like the mountain by himself.
 

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So Jamie killed the mad king to prevent him from burning the cept. And now his sister goes and burns it anyway. He's gotta feel like his legacy of saving kings landing is completely irrelevant now. He's absolutely going to kill Cersi and I wouldn't be surprised if he goes through zombie mountain to do so.

The story arc certainly seems to be pointing that way. Aerys was going to burn the whole city, though, not just the Great sept of Baelor. Cersei managed to leave the rest of the city intact, it appears. Maggy the Frog's prophecy is still intact.
 

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People need to get over the "timeline". It has been pretty prevalent over the last season and a half or so. Everything is not happening chronologically anymore, if you notice that Varys was there in SunSpear at the same time Olenna was there and knowledgeable of The Sept coming down (just happened earlier in the show and Highgarden to Sunspear is not an easy trip), Arya was in the riverlands when she was last in Braavos 2 episodes ago, Varys was back in Meereen after being in Sunspear but if you notice in the last shot, I believe there are some Dornish sails on some of the ships, so he clearly came back with them telling Dany that the alliance was successful and the Martells had offered their full support (and ships as well). Things happening don't need to be in a perfect timeline, there are too many things to happen going forward for them to dilly-dally around and keep everything in a perfect timeline .

Exactly. If they waited a few episodes to show them traveling we would all get bored. The only time the journey is shown is when something important happens on the way.

There were definitely Dornish ships in the Dragon Armada. I was surprised to see him until I noticed the ships and then it made sense. He brought them to help ferry the army and confirm the Dornish alliance.
 

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Couple of crazy thoughts I have in my head.

What if Jamie strangles Cersei, he would then be king. Just in time for him to lay the Lannister arms down and give Kings Landing to Dany, because Tyrion is with him, or Jamie kills himself and Tyrion is now King. Probably won't happen that way, but possible.

So Targaryen's wed Targaryen's, but at the same time Sasna and Jon are not brother and sister. Jon suddenly has plenty of options. Granted I don't expect all of them to last the winter.

I don't think Jamie would want to be King, but if he does kill Cersei he would have a claim. That said, the High Septon Crowns people, not The Hand, so Cersei's claim is shaky at best, and only as good as the army that supports her. Will Jamie support her after what she has done? Will he finally see Cersei for what she is? It will be fun to see.

The Lannister's have no chance of retaining King's Landing. They cannot re engage the North with Dany and her alliance coming. Jaime needs to march his army to Casterly Rock, and circle the wagons. Their alliance with Tarly may save them if he bends the knee. Cersei has doomed herself.

Jon is a bastard no matter how you slice it, until he is legitimized by a King. He could do it himself. I do not believe that he will usurp Sansa's claim to Winterfell. He prepared the Lord's chambers for her even though she said he should have them. I don't know what Sansa's end game is besides from being safe, and there is no safer place for her than Winterfell. If she wants more she could wed Jon after finding out that he is her cousin not a half brother. When Tyrion returns she is his wife. If they reconcile they join the North's Power to Dany. Tyrion was kind to her.

I did not believe Littlefinger when he said he sees her next to him sitting on the Iron Throne. He married her to Ramsay so he could get Cersei to offer him more titles in exchange for her death. She could marry Robin. He loves her and would not be a threat to her physically. Littlefinger hs to die for Sansa to live, but can she outsmart him. His power over her was damaged significantly when The North bowed to Jon. Jon will garrison Winterfell to protect her.

Arya is fascinating, because she was always impetulant, but also kind. She is back in Westeros, but does not go to Jon, she goes to kill Walder. I don't think Arya will ever go home, and be a part of her family. She may go for a period of time, but will never settle down. I just don't think she is going to submit to being married off. Her duty would be to marry a Manderly, Glover, etc. to strengthen the alliances in the North. It won't happen. I think at the end of the story, if she lives, she is in the free cities.

One thing I am really curious to see is if Bran's going south of the wall brings it down. It broke the spells on the cave so he may let them in.

I hope there is a good time gap between this season and next so they can solidify some things. A lot has happened and a lot of details have been left sort of dangling. I'd like to see some of the political and practical things being taken care of for surviving winter in the north, and also Dany's invasion.

And one more thing, increase the Dire Wolf budget!!
 
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From what I know, he only hinted that it wasn't rape between Lyanna and Rhaegar. There is no way of knowing that Jon was her kid.

I think this is all he was hinting as well.

If he knew that Jon wasn't Ned's bastard he would have tried to use it to his advantage somehow by now. I don't think he cared about Jon until he commanded an army.

He's plotting something now and I hope Sansa is smart enough to cut him off.
 
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One thing I am really curious to see is if Bran's going south of the wall brings it down. It broke the spells on the cave so he may let them in.

Gosh, I would hope not. That would be so weak if Benjen knows he cannot go to the Wall, but delivers Bran to the Wall as the instrument of its failure.

Surprised we did not see the Night's King in a little cameo, but not complaining at all about more Lady Mormont.
 

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When I saw the still shot of the open window, and Tommen taking off his crown I told my wife, "He's going to jump out that ******* window."

I also want to note how well directed this episode was. That window shot was gorgeous. The entire trial sequence was also fantastic.


One thing I'm surprised about is that Margery didn't make it out. She knew something was up but the moronic Faith wouldn't let her leave.
 

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I think this is all he was hinting as well.

If he knew that Jon wasn't Ned's bastard he would have tried to use it to his advantage somehow by now. I don't think he cared about Jon until he commanded an army.

He's plotting something now and I hope Sansa is smart enough to cut him off.

I think he knows more than we think he knows.

He talks a handsome young man. Pretty much has to be Jon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3PSTvAbfac
 

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I'm not sure why Jon would marry Sansa - Dany is the Targaryen. If those two married (which is still gross, but not so much by Westeros standards), they'd have pretty well the entirety of Westeros behind them in the fight with the Night's King.
 

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