Future of College Basketball Recruiting

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Article from KU with Self opining about future state of recruiting. The more things change, the more they will stay the same. The college level may get watered down slightly if the elite begin to skip college altogether but the blue bloods will still have top pick of those committing, good programs (ISU) will battle for those and occasionally get one and continue to pick up the next level and so on down the food chain. The real struggle is to move up the pecking order to be in position for guys sooner. That is where continued success and a strong conference really help out.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2016/jul/12/self-says-recruiting-may-get-harder/
 

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I have been wondering if there would be something coming out about this situation. With a few highly touted recruits forgoing their college eligibility to play overseas or whatever the case may be, you had to expect some sort of realization from the NCAA and coaches. Good article, thanks for the post.
 

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I'd like to think that after a few years of adjusting the college game would get better. Rather than KU, UK, Duke, etc re-loading with one year kids who have zero interest in school, everyone will be playing with kids in school for 2+ years. Watching a Wiggins or Simmons can be entertaining, but they don't belong in college.
 

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Don't feel sorry for Self. Traditional powers with quality coaches will always sign the best talent.

IMO, if the NBA allows HS players to be drafted and play in the NBDL that will clean up some aspects of college recruiting and might improve the quality of the game as coaches will be able to build their roster with a 2-3 plan. The college game benefits from kids like Niang, Hield and Valentine vs. kids like Simmons, Wiggins, Diello, etc.

Unfortunately, the NCAA needs to have a willing partner in the NBA to make the NBDL an option for elite level HS players.
 

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Unfortunately, the NCAA needs to have a willing partner in the NBA to make the NBDL an option for elite level HS players.
The NBDL is already an option for elite HS players. What needs to be done is to make HS players who enroll in college ineligible to play in the NBA for at least two years.
 

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For someone who has every recruiting advantage there is, Self sure likes to whines about how tough recruiting is. I don't think more players will continue to go overseas for a year. I seem to remember Brandon Jennings having a terrible time over there in his one year wait to be eligible for the draft and basically saying he regretted doing it. Every couple of years we may see 2-3 kids do it, only to realize its not that great a deal.
 

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Another underrated issue for these big schools that even ISU has been hurt by are these fraudulent prep schools that seem to be popping up more frequently. It seems like I've heard a lot more names mentioned as possibly having academic issues that could jeopardize their college careers than past years. It will be interesting to see if the D League becomes a more appealing option to top prospects with the salaries reportedly going up soon.
 

randomfan44

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The NBDL is already an option for elite HS players. What needs to be done is to make HS players who enroll in college ineligible to play in the NBA for at least two years.
The NBADL pays about as much as McDonalds does so it's really not an option at all for these kids unless they are going to also get money from a shoe company.
 

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The NBADL pays about as much as McDonalds does so it's really not an option at all for these kids unless they are going to also get money from a shoe company.

They aren't supposed to get paid in college either so I would say it is an option.
 

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For someone who has every recruiting advantage there is, Self sure likes to whines about how tough recruiting is. I don't think more players will continue to go overseas for a year. I seem to remember Brandon Jennings having a terrible time over there in his one year wait to be eligible for the draft and basically saying he regretted doing it. Every couple of years we may see 2-3 kids do it, only to realize its not that great a deal.

And people were ******** about Rhoads complaining about how hard recruiting for ISU Football was...
 

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They aren't supposed to get paid in college either so I would say it is an option.

It's an "option" like crapping your pants instead of pulling them down first is an "option".

Kids aren't forgoing a year of college to go to the NBDL unless there are very unique and unfortunate circumstances.
 

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It's an "option" like crapping your pants instead of pulling them down first is an "option".

Kids aren't forgoing a year of college to go to the NBDL unless there are very unique and unfortunate circumstances.
If the NBA and NCAA would agree to a two and done rule, a significant percentage of elite HS players would go the NBDL or overseas route while collecting endorsement money in the process.
 

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You would think the NBA would want a more developed 4 year college player before risking a multi million contract. Guess not. If a player is over 22 years they are considered too old. Go figure.
 

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If the NBA and NCAA would agree to a two and done rule, a significant percentage of elite HS players would go the NBDL or overseas route while collecting endorsement money in the process.

Elite players aren't going to the NBDL to bypass college. It's really that simple. Overseas is an option but the NBDL doesn't pay.
 

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If the NBA and NCAA would agree to a two and done rule, a significant percentage of elite HS players would go the NBDL or overseas route while collecting endorsement money in the process.
The NCAA has nothing to do with it. It is an agreement to be made between the NBA Owners and the NBA Players Union. And I do not believe a significant number would go. More would go but not a lot. They are still 18 year old kids and there is still a huge number of grown men players in the pro leagues in Europe that do not like the possibility that they will lose roster spots to little kids hoping to grab their cash for a year with no care about the team at all. Many of these kids would get their a$$es handed to them in every practice and every game and the word would spread that it isn't always a great experience. And like I said, as long as the NBADL is paying McDonald's cashier rates, there isn't a risk of elite athletes going there. Only the players who are most desperate for cash will take that route.