Lanning

[DeereClone]

His mistakes were huge but I thought his throwing was very accurate tonight, minus the obvious pic at the end (the first was a miscommunication). I didn't see him miss open receivers, throw at the feet of receivers, etc

Huge mistakes but I came away feeling like he has the potential to be an average QB.

 

[MayorsCabinet]

The fumble is inexcusable. Easy fix but it shouldn't need to be fixed. The safety wasn't really an issue. For the first interception I don't know which one was right but you can't have that so whichever one needs to figure it out. Plus I thought it was Lazard. The last interception was just absolutely inexcusable. That's the one that really did it for me. The inability to know what to do there was just awful.

Then he all around just didn't play that great. He had some nice throws but there wasn't anything special. I think that was more the receivers.

You ever played catch with a football and the ball hits your hands and falls to the ground? If not you must have played WR in the NFL. Dropping the ball is inevitable. Everyone drops a pass or a snap at some point. His just happened to be in a loss so it's getting blown up. I agree the last INT was horrible but come on... To call for the backup already?? Lets pump the brakes just a little here.

 

[Clonehomer]

Joel showed that he has the physical ability to play. He had a lot of nice throws tonight. The issue was between the ears. That can be fixed for some guys. I'd like to see what he can do to improve from week 1 to 2 before benching him. But Park should be thought of as an option if Joel can't stop making poor decisions.

 

[jkclone]

Joel showed that he has the physical ability to play. He had a lot of nice throws tonight. The issue was between the ears. That can be fixed for some guys. I'd like to see what he can do to improve from week 1 to 2 before benching him. But Park should be thought of as an option if Joel can't stop making poor decisions.

This is my problem. He's a RS junior and still having these issues. Admittedly he didn't have good instruction but you can't have those issues at this point in your career.

 

[3GenClone]

He also almost got Mike Warren creamed on a screen pass and I think he was partially to blame for the "yakety sax" moment when Warren and Ryen ran into each other. His decision making was too slow, especially against an FCS opponent.

 

[BoxsterCy]

He's a game control and partial run threat QB. To be successful doing that you have to have a good line and goo running game. We do no have that and he isn't likely to be successful this year. To do anything with how bad this line is likely to be throughout the year you need a QB with a crazy accurate arm and ability to ready stuff faster then a blink of an eye or be an incredibility gifted runner. He's not those so we have what we have and it ain't going to be pretty.

Oh, just ye ole IMHO.

And I feel sorry for Warren. Not sure he is going to be able to do much this year. Going to be frustrating for him and us. At least in the Davis years we had run blocking and had something to watch even if we were losing a lot.

 

[heitclone]

Uni's a tough team. Just have to wonder what's changed from last year.

I dont get what game people watched last year, the score was nowhere near how close the game actually was. We only out gained them by 8 yards and they doubled our rushing output and they beat in TOP by over 8 minutes. We only ran for 77 yards last year against them, the only reason we beat them last year was that they had the worst punter in the country. We had nearly 200 (barely 300 yards offense almost identical to this year) punt return yards thanks to his line drive lasers, the bad punts lead to good field position, which allowed us to get ahead. Once ahead, we were able to make them one dimensional which accounted for Bailey's struggles and allowed us to get 6 sacks. These teams were much more evenly matched last season than most casual fans realize.

 

[67CY]

He seemed to be more effective last year when he ran the ball. Last night li looked like they didn't want him running

 

[Cyinthenorth]

He seemed to be more effective last year when he ran the ball. Last night li looked like they didn't want him running

I disagree, he was running with purpose just that he had limited looks due to us losing for 85% of the game. We passed a lot more than I expected us too, and Lanning looked good on a lot of throws.i believe all of his TD passes came from outside the red zone, they were things of beauty. Then there was the int he threw to the UNI safety with no cyclone jerseys around him. That one confused me. Just a few bonehead plays that really shadowed an otherwise impressive night by Joel. If he can figure out the mental game he'll be fine. Not super convinced he will though, Sam never did

 

[Clonehomer]

This is my problem. He's a RS junior and still having these issues. Admittedly he didn't have good instruction but you can't have those issues at this point in your career.

Maybe I'm giving him too much of a benefit of the doubt, but I really want to see if this coaching staff can show strides from week 1 to week 2. I think his mental mistakes are correctable with proper coaching. At this point, Lanning or Park aren't getting us to a bowl. I'm more interested in seeing if this coaching staff can show the in season improvements.

 

[jkclone]

Maybe I'm giving him too much of a benefit of the doubt, but I really want to see if this coaching staff can show strides from week 1 to week 2. I think his mental mistakes are correctable with proper coaching. At this point, Lanning or Park aren't getting us to a bowl. I'm more interested in seeing if this coaching staff can show the in season improvements.

I was hoping for that too before the last interception. I lost hope that he could be fixed after that one. That one was just so bad.

 

[Bryce7]

People on here make me laugh... last year you're all calling for Joel to play over Sam and now looky here, one game in and he's awful and shouldn't be on the field.

The backup QB is always the most popular guy on the team for you guys. Get a hold of yourselves and give this 21 year old kid, learning his 4th (!!!) offense in 4 years, a damn chance.

At this level of performance, expect eleven more losses.

 

[Bryce7]

The QB is the obvious position to pin things on when things go bad, but it is truly lazy in this case. There were loads of things that were pathetic in this game and to act as if Lanning was the difference is shear nonsense. The last interception was awful but the first one wasn't on him and neither was the fumbled snap. On the safety, what the hell was he supposed to do when he was instantly getting tackled from his blind side right when he got the snap? Not to mention he had some fantastic throws that we haven't seen made in years.

Was Lanning an asset today. Probably not, but he wasn't anywhere near the liability people are making him out to. Yes there are reasons we lost. Don't take the easy way out and pin it all on the QB.

Lanning drop of the snap was just one of four major errors. Getting sacked in the end zone showed poor skill. Time to give the second qb some reps. Lanning throwing motion looks difficult to improve. He needs to run more. Sorry people, he just does.

 

[Bryce7]

Maybe I'm giving him too much of a benefit of the doubt, but I really want to see if this coaching staff can show strides from week 1 to week 2. I think his mental mistakes are correctable with proper coaching. At this point, Lanning or Park aren't getting us to a bowl. I'm more interested in seeing if this coaching staff can show the in season improvements.

With an inept oline, Lanning needs to run more to help Warren.

 

[bigsag]

When is the last time you watched the other team's QB throw a pass directly to one of our DBs, with none of their receivers in the immediate area ?

 

[casey1973]

Joel showed that he has the physical ability to play. He had a lot of nice throws tonight. The issue was between the ears. That can be fixed for some guys. I'd like to see what he can do to improve from week 1 to 2 before benching him. But Park should be thought of as an option if Joel can't stop making poor decisions.

Pretty sure I remember this being said about Sam last year. All between the ears. He needs a couple more games and after that an evaluation is in order in my view. I feel bad for him and the team.

 

[ISUCubswin]

Worked for a pretty smart football guy who worked within the Ankeny School district the year Lanning redshirted at Iowa State. He told me if Lanning ever saw the field at Iowa State, Iowa State was in trouble. He was not wrong.

(For the record, this guy said Lanning would be a pretty good at other positions just because he's tough to take down)

 

[CyBlitz]

One has to wonder, why bring Park in if you don't think he is going to play much. If the staff thought Lanning was their guy for a few years, why bother bringing Park in?

That has nothing to do with tonight either, just an observation.

They are most comfortable with him so he was the starter, because of his experience. If that starting QB is sick, injured, or whatever you would need someone to back him up like what Park is doing. Personally I liked ISU using two QB's because it created more competition in the Quarterbacks, so if one is doing really bad like last night another one could take over.

 

[Bryce7]

When is the last time you watched the other team's QB throw a pass directly to one of our DBs, with none of their receivers in the immediate area ?

He panicked and had a brain fart.

 

[cycloner29]

I think the whole offense stunk. Holding penalties, we didn't control the ball and open holes for Warren,missing people due to injury or suspension. We just looked out of sync. Wasn't there the one play where our back ran into his teammate?