Maybe, finish in the top half of the league and you're in. Lots of pieces that can be added before next season but we will lack experience
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Maybe, finish in the top half of the league and you're in. Lots of pieces that can be added before next season but we will lack experience
I agree, we will need to find lots of production in our backcourt as well. Jackson seems like a decent role player, Babb has good potential and Long might grow into a solid role player, but I'm not seeing how we don't take a massive step back next year.
I can live with that, considering we'll be very young with lots of potential.
But unless we get a couple of high level transfers, I think next season will be rebuilding mode.
We've been dancing each of the last 5 years, most likely 6 after this year. There isn't one single reason why you guys shouldn't expect to be there again in 2018. We aren't a second rate program anymore. Expect to dance.
I think your expectations of Lard and Stokes, being freshman, not being top 50 recruits, Lard not playing in a game setting for 1.5 years, are a bit lofty.
How many impact freshmen, has ISU brought in over the past 20 years who were probably ready to play day 1?
Now take it a step further, how many impact freshman has ISU had, where there weren't a bunch of junior and seniors on the floor with them?
Wigginton could be that freshman, but unfortunately he is gonna have a lot of other youth on the floor with him.
Kasongo, was a guy that averaged 1.5 points at an okay SEC program. He probably is not going to become a double digit scorer. Though a good point guard, could help improvement in the scorind department, giving him some easy looks.
Unless they pull a high end grad transfer or a couple of high end JC's, that team is gonna be really young. Young teams especially those who are not blue blood programs with 1 and done freshmen, don't consistently make the NCAA tourney.
Actually Lard has been playing this fall, a lot of times against small colleges
This game: 18 points 17 rebounds 7 blocks
Lard practicing with the team this second semester will help, I'm sure we'll get some nuggets on how he is performing. It's not as hard as it used to be to squeeze in the tourney with the Fran-in games. If Big 12 sends 7 again, we're one of those 7.
I have no NCAA expectations for next year, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were very good by the end of the year. It may be a matter of doing enough in the early games to keep in the conversation. You never know though, college basketball can be a young man's game.
Staying on top unless you are Kentucky, Duke, NC or Kansas is really hard.
I have not looked this up, but I will venture to guess next year will be the first time in a long time where we don't bring back at least 2 guys that averaged double digits in points from the previous season.
The one current transfer we have sitting out averaged 1.5 points per game.
Will see what the spring brings, but like Prohm said, for those schools not named Duke, Kentucky,Kansas or NC, to compete year in and year out, you gotta bring in grad transfers.
If free agency goes well, maybe a bubble NCAA team, if not NIT starting 2 or maybe even 3 freshmen. Back in the dance in 2019.
Missing 1 year does not mean ISU is a 2nd rate program, just means that like most good programs, they will have a rebuild year
I can see Kasongo, Carter and/or Lard being the type of shot blocking/rebounding player that Lucas has become next year.
Stokes on the other hand already has a decent out side shot is a good athlete and isn't the same type of player of Lucas. Isaiah is more of a pure stretch 4 with big body who I think could slide to the 3 if Prohm wants to go big for small stretches.
As for the post next year pencil in Kosongo and assuming Young can get healthy he are inline for serious minutes with Lard and Carter as wild cards at this point. I do expect one more post grad transfer/JC big to be added to the mix in the Spring.
I predict a slow start to the season. We'll likely drop some games that would usually be winnable early on. However, there's going to be a ton of talent on next year's team. I'd say that by mid-season we'll look like a tourney team. Our bench is pretty good this year with Babb, Young, and Jackson getting the most minutes. Adding Kasongo will help up front with Lewis, plus hopefully Stokes and a JUCO forward.
Making the NCAA's isn't what it used to be. Finish .500 in our league and that's not even bubble anymore.
winning 9 in the conference and 6/7 in non-con is not a resume worthy of the tourney.
The X factor might be how Babb transitions to a scorer. He's immensely talented but not really looking for his shot right now. When he does, I like what I see.
I agree with your talent assessment of the team, the future is looking pretty good though early next year there will be some bumps in the road.
Weiler-Babb, Young and Jackson minutes this year will help a lot with next years early transition. A lot will depend on the development of Lard, Carter, Young and Jakobly Long so they are ready to play major roles.
We'll see how ready the incoming freshman are when the arrive next summer but to ask any to contribute right away is a lot to ask. Obviously I do expect Wigginton to get some minutes and could work his way to being a major contributor during the year. (Lewis to lesser degree too.)
4 more teams get a chance to play themselves into the dance now, and usually 2 of those are mid-majors.
It's not easy to finish in the top half of the B12 if you are young.
As far as next year as someone else mentioned, it will really come down to free agency. If we can add a DeAndre Kane level player, then we probably have enough to fight our way in.
I think Young, Lard and Stokes will make a great front court down the road, but next year they would still be really young.
It's not easy to finish in the top half of the B12 if you are young.
As far as next year as someone else mentioned, it will really come down to free agency. If we can add a DeAndre Kane level player, then we probably have enough to fight our way in.
I think Young, Lard and Stokes will make a great front court down the road, but next year they would still be really young.
We also hyped Darien Williams, who stat line as a freshman at a JC was through the roof.
16 points a game, like 7 boards, and over 40% from 3.
I don't think dude even sees the floor at St John's. Part of this could be shoulder issues that took away some of his movement.
Does not mean Lard will not be all world. As someone mentioned hopefully when he starts practice here, (assuming he makes it to campus) we will get a good indication of how good he is. Hope we struck gold
Our league was probably the most loaded league in the last decade. Not saying it's easy to go .500 because road games in the Big XII are tough whether it's TCU or KU. But last year isn't a good example.
Well that would only be winning half of the ooc games that would mean we lost to some pretty **** teams if that were to happen. OSU made the tourney at 18-10 (8-10) two years ago.
If we only get 6 or 7 ooc games then we don't even need to worry about getting 9 in conference those factors don't mesh.
