Elimination of One and One

[Rogue52]

Why is men's college basketball still using the archaic one and one bonus rule for team fouls 7, 8, and 9 in a half? Even woman's basketball has fixed this with the move to quarters.

Non-professionals getting penalized for being fouled and not making the first free throw? One could argue there should actually be strategy involved to use these extra team fouls late in a game if you're under the double bonus limit to force a "front end miss turnover".

 

[alarson]

On one hand, i can see what you're saying as a premise, and that it is frustrating that fouls can often be more beneficial to the fouling team.

On the other hand, maybe we should stop sucking from the FT line.

 

[Clones8686]

I think the rule is perfectly fine to be honest. If you're getting penalized by the rule then you need to improve the easiest possible thing to improve in the sport of basketball.

 

[spitfyr36]

Can't have it both ways. when it helps we praise the rule, when it bites us it needs to change. Just make the free throws and it doesn't matter

 

[Cyclonepride]

If we're going to change a rule related to fouling, it should be the addition of a 6th foul before disqualification. Sure, that would give Huggy 50 potential fouls before fouling anyone out, but it would be an equalizer for teams that have less depth in any given area, and would make the games better.

An even better solution would be to stop calling the inconsequential fouls unless they affect the play (like resulting in a turnover, a missed shot or some form of hard contact). I'd guess that 5 fouls a game per team minimum have absolutely no bearing on the outcome of a game.

 

[MartyFine]

By all means let's not make Steve Prohm think more than is already required. So good idea here.

Prohm would screw up a one bottle milk route

 

[Lafaester54]

If we're going to change a rule related to fouling, it should be the addition of a 6th foul before disqualification. Sure, that would give Huggy 50 potential fouls before fouling anyone out, but it would be an equalizer for teams that have less depth in any given area, and would make the games better.

An even better solution would be to stop calling the inconsequential fouls unless they affect the play (like resulting in a turnover, a missed shot or some form of hard contact). I'd guess that 5 fouls a game per team minimum have absolutely no bearing on the outcome of a game.

They tried the six foul rule quite a few years ago in the old Big East. Resulted in very long games that were Foul feasts. Did not repeat it for a second year.

 

[Cyclonepride]

They tried the six foul rule quite a few years ago in the old Big East. Resulted in very long games that were Foul feasts. Did not repeat it for a second year.

That's why I'd prefer the latter (though using the former Big East as a test plot then would be kind of like using West Virginia for it now).

 

[Rural]

Additional fouls ups the physicality, not the trend they're looking to embrace.

 

[cyclonespiker33]

Just go to quarters in NCAA men's basketball and make the game more similar to the NBA and every other level of basketball.

 

[VeloClone]

Six fouls makes absolutely no sense. In the NBA players get 6 fouls in 48 minutes of game time or a foul for every 8 minutes. In NCAA players get 5 fouls in 40 minutes of game time or a foul every 8 minutes of game time.

 

[coolerifyoudid]

Six fouls makes absolutely no sense. In the NBA players get 6 fouls in 48 minutes of game time or a foul for every 8 minutes. In NCAA players get 5 fouls in 40 minutes of game time or a foul every 8 minutes of game time.

Agreed. Leave the college game alone. 2 halves, 5 fouls.

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

here is the ultimate rule change. if the basket goes in the foul doe not count. a foul is because it gives the defensive player an unfair advantage. if the ball goes in there really wasn't an unfair advantage gained. so let them play on.

 

[VeloClone]

here is the ultimate rule change. if the basket goes in the foul doe not count. a foul is because it gives the defensive player an unfair advantage. if the ball goes in there really wasn't an unfair advantage gained. so let them play on.

So no "and one"?

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

So no "and one"?

correct. if the shot went in the defense did not gain an unfair advantage.

 

[cyclonespiker33]

here is the ultimate rule change. if the basket goes in the foul doe not count. a foul is because it gives the defensive player an unfair advantage. if the ball goes in there really wasn't an unfair advantage gained. so let them play on.

I'm fine with that if they allow the same continuation as in the NBA.

 

[CyArob]

Just go to quarters in NCAA men's basketball and make the game more similar to the NBA and every other level of basketball.

This is the correct answer.

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

something doesn't smell right with these google search results. seems a bit fishy to me.

 

[coolerifyoudid]

correct. if the shot went in the defense did not gain an unfair advantage.

I think you'd see harder fouls since the defender has a chance that it may not count against them.

 

[Clonefan32]

Why is men's college basketball still using the archaic one and one bonus rule for team fouls 7, 8, and 9 in a half? Even woman's basketball has fixed this with the move to quarters.

Non-professionals getting penalized for being fouled and not making the first free throw? One could argue there should actually be strategy involved to use these extra team fouls late in a game if you're under the double bonus limit to force a "front end miss turnover".

I fail to see how it is being "penalized". For example, in the first half Monte get's fouled receiving an inbounds pass, 80 feet from the hoop, where he was in no position to score. Because of that foul, he went and made 2 free throws. That's hardly a penalty.

The simple solution is to make free throws.