Next coach?

HitItHard58

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Go get a Kyle Dake or a David Taylor.
Taylor already said he's not interested in coaching and I'm sure Dake wants to focus on wrestling. Both guys are in their primes competition wise and aren't thinking about coaching yet. Would be great if they were a legit possibility but the timing just isn't right.
 
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I don't know why some keeping wanting to hire as a head coach those who have no substantial coaching experience. Gable and Sanderson (Cael) both put in their time as assistants before they were hired as head coaches.
 

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I keep thinking back to when Cael left for PSU. It wasn't only salary issues, I think Pollard offered to up the amount Sanderson was getting. PSU was offering a big shiny new temple to wrestling funded by some deep pocket supporter. Do we have to go down the path of facility upgrade to get a truly decent coach (who might bring his recruits with him, ala Cael and the Brands did!) worthy of rebuilding the program back to it's traditional level?
 

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Doug Schwab was contacted. Iowa State was not willing to pay enough more than the approximately $100k that he makes at UNI. Apparently, a salary of about $120k was discussed but it wasn't enough to move his family out of Cedar Falls, especially with twin girls due this summer. There are similar concerns at UNI as far as the commitment to wrestling with the change in AD.
 

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Doug Schwab was contacted. Iowa State was not willing to pay enough more than the approximately $100k that he makes at UNI. Apparently, a salary of about $120k was discussed but it wasn't enough to move his family out of Cedar Falls, especially with twin girls due this summer. There are similar concerns at UNI as far as the commitment to wrestling with the change in AD.

That we're not willing to pay enough to get Doug Schwab, who wouldn't make the top 5 on a lot of people's list of candidates, enough to consider moving 100 miles down the road says a lot about Pollard's willingness to "think big" on this coaching search.

Expect Bono to be hired, and expect Pollard to say something along the lines of "we discussed and contacted many candidates and Chris was the best fit for our culture and the tradition of Iowa State wrestling." I pray to God we get Reader to come along, but my guess is SDSU is smart enough to retain him as HC.
 
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That we're not willing to pay enough to get Doug Schwab, who wouldn't make the top 5 on a lot of people's list of candidates, enough to consider moving 100 miles down the road says a lot about Pollard's willingness to "think big" on this coaching search.

Expect Bono to be hired, and expect Pollard to say something along the lines of "we discussed and contacted many candidates and Chris was the best fit for our culture and the tradition of Iowa State wrestling." I pray to God we get Reader to come along, but my guess is SDSU is smart enough to retain him as HC.

Really not trying to be an ass here but Iowa State runs on a break even budget right now so where does the money come from for these "think big" hires?

It's not getting pulled out of the revenue generating sports (nor should it). Its not getting pulled from women's sports.
 

ca4cy

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Really not trying to be an ass here but Iowa State runs on a break even budget right now so where does the money come from for these "think big" hires?

It's not getting pulled out of the revenue generating sports (nor should it). Its not getting pulled from women's sports.

First off, I don't take it that you're trying to be an ass. It's a fair take.

It was a different thread but I was basically referring to the What's Bugging Andy blurb where he said ISU should swing for the fences and invest in the program with a big salary and improved facilities. Whether or not is should happen is a horse that has been beat to death. My contention has been that it won't happen and I think this proves that.

I'm wrestling fan. I don't expect us to hang banners every single year but I don't think it's out of the realm for us to at least be relevant especially when this is one of the sports where we aren't at a geographic disadvantage. Does it move the needle nationally or put money in the bank? Nope, but if you're fielding the sport you should try to compete as much as your means allow. Besides our historical place in the sport, ISU wrestling is now largely irrelevant. Finding an additional $25-50,000 to bring somebody in to provide the program and fanbase with some much needed energy would probably do a lot to turn that trend around fairly quickly. It appears Pollard, to the surprise of absolutely no one, instead wants to further reduce salary and hope he can get someone to do a slower build back to some measure of success. It's not surprising that a lot of people see this as a missed opportunity. Your dollars and cents comment is duly noted, but it's not like we're looking for an extra million dollars.

As to your point that we shouldn't rob from revenue sports...we have 2 sports that make money so every sport we offer outside of FB and MBB are robbing from revenue sports or at the very least it's an opportunity cost of shoveling all our B12 money to them. We're at the minimum number of sports to maintain D1 status so I don't see that changing anytime soon.
 

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Doug Schwab was contacted. Iowa State was not willing to pay enough more than the approximately $100k that he makes at UNI. Apparently, a salary of about $120k was discussed but it wasn't enough to move his family out of Cedar Falls, especially with twin girls due this summer. There are similar concerns at UNI as far as the commitment to wrestling with the change in AD.

If that's true then we might as well have kept Jackson and promoting a Paulson is probably the best we can hope for. If we aren't gonna swing for the fences we might as well try to salvage the current redshirts and incoming recruits.
 
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buf87

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I wouldn't read to much into what somebody says Schwab was offered or the amount he was offered.

So much speculation going on. This is the 1st time I heard Schwab's name mentioned as guy be interviewed. And to say we offered him, I question that.

If Dresser is given the same offer of $100 to 120,000 then I would say that gives some indication about Pollard's interest in wrestling. Dresser is worth the $155,000
 

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Really not trying to be an ass here but Iowa State runs on a break even budget right now so where does the money come from for these "think big" hires?

It's not getting pulled out of the revenue generating sports (nor should it). Its not getting pulled from women's sports.

I am not an accountant, but I would imagine it's by design that we "break even" every year. I'm sure they either have excess money they can reallocate as needed or some cash reserves to tap into if needed. Not that they will be doing that in this scenario, but I don't believe our overall athletic budget will be issue.

The idea of spending less on a new coach is definitely concerning to me if that's what actually happens. That probably means you aren't attracting the high level candidates.
 

buf87

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I would hope that different level of candidates attract different pay levels.

Dresser, Cody or Casey at one level
Bono, Schwab and Travis at a different level
Not sure where you put Damian Hahn
 

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I wouldn't read to much into what somebody says Schwab was offered or the amount he was offered.

So much speculation going on. This is the 1st time I heard Schwab's name mentioned as guy be interviewed. And to say we offered him, I question that.

If Dresser is given the same offer of $100 to 120,000 then I would say that gives some indication about Pollard's interest in wrestling. Dresser is worth the $155,000

he's going to cost more than that (he makes that much now, he's not going to leave there for the same salary)
 

BirdOfWar

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I would hope that different level of candidates attract different pay levels.

Dresser, Cody or Casey at one level
Bono, Schwab and Travis at a different level
Not sure where you put Damian Hahn

I would agree with that. Not all candidates should be on the same level.

I feel like Pollard's hiring strategy has changed over the years. For football he hired a couple people that had no prior head coaching experience in Chizik & Rhoads, the same with Jackson in wrestling, and the same for basketball with Hoiberg. For Prohm and Campbell he went with a potential up and coming head coach with at least some experience.

Who knows which way he'll go this time around.