Bubble Watch

Cyballzz

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2 wins and we might be in, but sweating on Selection Sunday. Like Royce White, I don't like to sweat.

While I don't disagree that their might be some tense moments (the bubble is always moving), I just look at how they would get to 9-9.

If they only win 2 home games they are at worst adding wins over RPI 28 and 35 (granted losing at Tech would not be a good look at 95). If they only beat the 2 worst RPI teams they would be 5-4 on the road (and shockingly in this scenario 4-5 at home) with another Top 50 road win which would give them 3.

None of that might be enough to get them better than a low 10 but I just don't see a 9-9 Big XII team getting left out. Especially when you see some of the sub .500 trash currently sitting on that bubble.

Having said that I would prefer to not find out what happens to 9-9 teams and would much rather they just go 6-0 and grab a 5 or 6 seed.
 
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cyclones500

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Syracuse missed a big opportunity at home vs. UL. SU beginning to run out of opportunities. Still has Duke at home, GT twice, at Louisville. Has some good wins, but resume overall is weak and RPI in the 70s. And, best road win is at Clemson.

I would lose no sleep if Syracuse missed the field. It'd be typical if Orange barely gets to 7th or 8th in ACC, surges in the conference tournament and got the auto-bid. Sooo Boeheim.
 
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isu83

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I can definitely understand that thinking. For instance I don't believe Nebraska is a blueblood football school because they haven't had huge success since the early 2000's. Indiana might be in the same boat as Nebby but in the basketball scene.

In the end I would still consider them to be a blueblood. They still have quite a bit of prestige and being the premier program of the basketball state helps. Doesn't hurt having 5 national titles and 8 FFs too.
I thought the same thing.
 

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9-9 is not safe, unless you're OK flirting with First Four and can withstand possible bid-stealing. If the two wins are Baylor and at WVa, it might work, but that means at least another sub-50 loss (Tech).
Seriously have some of you even looked at the other teams? I just don't see these other teams that are somehow going to take these spots.
 

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Syracuse missed a big opportunity at home vs. UL. SU beginning to run out of opportunities. Still has Duke at home, GT twice, at Louisville. Has some good wins, but resume overall is weak and RPI in the 70s. And, best road win is at Clemson.

I would lose no sleep if Syracuse missed the field. It'd be typical if Orange barely gets to 7th or 8th in ACC, surges in the conference tournament and got the auto-bid. Sooo Boeheim.

I'd miss the shots of Boeheim's wife tho.
 

NATEizKING

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RPI hates us this year, that home slate was horrific:

314 Savannah St.
169 Mt. St. Mary's
294 The Citadel
184 Omaha
337 Miss. Valley St.

Throw in neutral:
282 Drake
 
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cyclones500

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I cant take this seriously until they move Clemson off the page. They have 9 conference losses already for **** sake. I dont care how close they were against a few good teams, those losses count just the same.

Just as they won't put a team at Lock status until they're almost certain it couldn't miss the tournament, I think they keep some teams on the board until realistic possibility of climbing into a bid is gone.

I would put Clemson well down the list of bubble teams, and only 2 games above .500, which never gets a team in. Still has mid-50s RPI, 19 SOS, only one sub-100 loss, 3-8 vs. top 50, I imagine that's why C is still considered on their Watch.
 

cyclones500

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One team I find has a bipolar resume: Wake Forest. Fairly gaudy RPI/SOS (30/15) relative to record (15-10), but currently 0-8 vs. top 50 RPI (recently 1-8 until Miami fell to 52) ... with that many chances, can't you win any of them? But nothing approaching a bad loss, either, 11th place in ACC but still at 6-7 conference. Weird body of work.
 

CyKings

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While I don't disagree that their might be some tense moments (the bubble is always moving), I just look at how they would get to 9-9.

If they only win 2 home games they are at worst adding wins over RPI 28 and 35 (granted losing at Tech would not be a good look at 95). If they only beat the 2 worst RPI teams they would be 5-4 on the road (and shockingly in this scenario 4-5 at home) with another Top 50 road win which would give them 3.

None of that might be enough to get them better than a low 10 but I just don't see a 9-9 Big XII team getting left out. Especially when you see some of the sub .500 trash currently sitting on that bubble.

Having said that I would prefer to not find out what happens to 9-9 teams and would much rather they just go 6-0 and grab a 5 or 6 seed.

I want to go 9-0 and get on that 4 line ha. In all seriousness though, if we could find a way into the 5/6 line, and in the Midwest region (in KC), that would be my ideal scenario.
 

Bigman38

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9-9 is not safe, unless you're OK flirting with First Four and can withstand possible bid-stealing. If the two wins are Baylor and at WVa, it might work, but that means at least another sub-50 loss (Tech).

9-9 is in for sure. 8-10 is when you guys should start sweating, but I think they'd still squeak in.
 

VeloClone

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While I don't disagree that their might be some tense moments (the bubble is always moving), I just look at how they would get to 9-9.

If they only win 2 home games they are at worst adding wins over RPI 28 and 35 (granted losing at Tech would not be a good look at 95). If they only beat the 2 worst RPI teams they would be 5-4 on the road (and shockingly in this scenario 4-5 at home) with another Top 50 road win which would give them 3.

None of that might be enough to get them better than a low 10 but I just don't see a 9-9 Big XII team getting left out. Especially when you see some of the sub .500 trash currently sitting on that bubble.

Having said that I would prefer to not find out what happens to 9-9 teams and would much rather they just go 6-0 and grab a 5 or 6 seed.

Keep in mind that if the committee is paying attention they will notice that Tech has been pretty stout at home with wins against Baylor, West Vagina, TCU and K State with a one point loss to Kansas in there for good measure. Tech's problem is they can't beat anyone on the road. If ISU was to lose to them in Lubbock as well I don't think it would necessarily be looked upon as your run of the mill sub 50 RPI loss.

I really would like to see ISU get 3 more so we don't have to sweat. ISU has 3 home games but they have already lost to TCU and Baylor once so neither is a gimme. As already mentioned Tech has been tough at home and don't count on a win in Morgantown as long as Huggins is in the officials' ears. That makes tomorrow's game in the Polygon of Mild Discomfort that much more important.
 

SCarolinaCy

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...s-final-four-saint-marys-iowa-state/97858336/

The reason they're on the bubble can be explained with their follow-up to the KU win: A two-point loss to Texas on Feb. 7 to damage their RPI (55). Two near-wins ISU surely could use right now came during the non-conference slate when it lost to Cincinnati (Dec. 1) by one point in overtime and Gonzaga (Nov. 27) by two points. That leaves a win against Miami as the best part of the team's non-conference credentials.
 

BryceC

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Everything else loves us. That's a wash. Plus win AT PHOG ALLEN.

Most teams in the top 16 were slotted very close to their RPI. It's still going to be a big factor this year.