NCAA BASKETBALL CORRUPTION SCHEME

FerShizzle

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Rick cannot stand being thought of behind Coach K, these past 5 years or so have really shown as much, IMO.

Arizona is baffling to me as they are THE team out on the west 'coast' it seemed.

UCLA, Gonzaga, Oregon... to name a few.
 

CYphyllis

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But Louisville and Arizona need to cheat?

With Louisville and Arizona I think you have two schools that want to be in that blue blood discussion so badly that they are willing to do whatever it takes - Louisville especially with the pressure they must be under from their base to keep up with Kentucky.
 

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With Louisville and Arizona I think you have two schools that want to be in that blue blood discussion so badly that they are willing to do whatever it takes - Louisville especially with the pressure they must be under from their base to keep up with Kentucky.

I don't know if Kansas cheats but you can't say KU doesn't need to cheat so they don't and then completely ignore Arizona who is the main team in the West Coast.
 

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The NCAA has done nothing to UNC after they were found to be giving athletes fake classes. Fraud isn't that different from bribery and they did nothing about that, so I don't expect anything from the NCAA about this.

That's what I find interesting - the UNC thing wasn't a major story, in part because there weren't high profile arrests, etc. If these guys start flipping, if Head Coaches, or maybe even the NCAA, are on tape as complicit, does that spur them to act where they wouldn't when it was outside the judicial system?
 

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That's what I find interesting - the UNC thing wasn't a major story, in part because there weren't high profile arrests, etc. If these guys start flipping, if Head Coaches, or maybe even the NCAA, are on tape as complicit, does that spur them to act where they wouldn't when it was outside the judicial system?

You'd think it might, but I don't think anyone has ever accused the NCAA of being smart.
 

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You also have to remember that this is just the criminal stuff we are seeing. FBI probably has tons of evidence on NCAA rules violations. Hopefully they turn it all over to the NCAA.

The Arizona guy is Miller's right hand man. He has coached with him for 11 years. You are telling me he didn't know what was going on? yeah right.
 
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CYphyllis

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I don't know if Kansas cheats but you can't say KU doesn't need to cheat so they don't and then completely ignore Arizona who is the main team in the West Coast.

They aren't the main team on the West Coast. Arizona falls off for a decade and they are all but forgotten, UCLA does the same and the national conversation is on when the Bruins will be back. In my mind, they got after it because they want to be the team on the West Coast - unfortunately for them recency doesn't change much in that regard.

The difference in opinion here is that you have Arizona on the same level as Kansas, I don't.
 

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Typical Bilas take...he is spinning this like the schools are the victims here and it's mostly the agents to blame, as if the schools had no idea what was going on.
It seemed to me - no time to re-watch at the moment - that he said that the thrust of the investigation was on how agents benefit, not that the schools were innocent. He didn't expect schools to face much in terms of NCAA punishment because of plausible deniability, which is a different statement than saying the schools didn't know what was going on.
 

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UCLA has just become relevant. Gonzaga doesn't go after 5* and high 4* recruits that compete with Blue Bloods like Arizona does year in and year out, and Oregon has been on the rise recruiting wise as well. But, Arizona has ran that side of the country for years.

Arizona struck me as odd, too. Given UCLA's fall from the spotlight for so long, they seem a more likely candidate to me.

Oregon's recent rise seems more attributed to being on the forefront of the uniform craze and being tied to Nike. Mark Few has built that program up to what it is and has put it on his shoulders with a specific style of play.

Some coaches and programs just come across slimier than others. Arizona didn't fit the mold, so I'll blame my own naivety I guess.
 
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During MBB season, Jake Sullivan and Jess Settles were on KXNO and mentioned these issues going on in the AAU programs.

I believe Jake's AAU team that he played on was sponsored by Adidas, but he went to Iowa State, which is a Nike school. I think going to Iowa State upset some of his AAU coaches.

Someone who might remember that story better can correct me if necessary.