Rumor? Campbell and Co. contract extention and raise

[KnappShack]

I'm not too worried. Campbell gave Toledo a chance to match Iowa State's offer (or get close). If Campbell has any interest in leaving, I'm sure he'll give Iowa State a chance to match. Unless someone offers him 6-8 million a year, he'll be at Iowa State.

Our GOR is quickly running out. TV contracts are going to be up for renewal. Another wave of change is coming.

We must have a competitive football team. We must be willing to pay to keep a man who is proving to be a great fit.

Or maybe we can get Schiano on the cheap

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

I'm not too worried. Campbell gave Toledo a chance to match Iowa State's offer (or get close). If Campbell has any interest in leaving, I'm sure he'll give Iowa State a chance to match. Unless someone offers him 6-8 million a year, he'll be at Iowa State.

i remember hearing this but never saw a source. Do you remember where this was reported?

 

[CyInDFW]

Jason Candle is the next guy i would call if we needed to replace CMC

Lou Ayeni is the first guy I would talk to before anyone.

 

[rholtgraves]

There isn't a job out there right now I would be worried about Campbell leaving for.

 

[Sigmapolis]

I'm not too worried. Campbell gave Toledo a chance to match Iowa State's offer (or get close). If Campbell has any interest in leaving, I'm sure he'll give Iowa State a chance to match. Unless someone offers him 6-8 million a year, he'll be at Iowa State.

I know SEC teams have deep pockets, but are they that deep even, especially when they might be buying one coach out (or still paying the one before that) even?

There isn't a job out there right now I would be worried about Campbell leaving for.

The only ones I would be tremendously fearful of...

Ohio State - Urban is not going anywhere unless he retires

Michigan - Harbaugh might be there for a long time

Notre Dame - Kelly was a little iffy there for awhile, and there were rumors last year that he interviewed in Eugene, Oregon, maybe trying to get out of town, but he seems to have righted the ship, but I could see this being a real problem in a few years if they are ready to move on from him... Campbell is a well-spoken, young, Catholic man with a beautiful family, an Ohio upbringing, and a Midwestern ethos... he screams ND if coach-in-waiting anybody does...

Michigan State - looks like Dantonio has righted the ship, as well, but could be a possibility

Penn State - looks like Franklin will be their guy for a long time, as well

We all better cheer for the Irish the next few years. They are the sword over our heads.

 

[AuH2O]

The buyout isn’t going to be bigger. We are lucky we had the big one from the start. I bet very few coaches have the type of buyout Campbell has.

Agree that it's a pretty unprecedented buyout. However I do think ISU has more leverage than most think. It's likely that even after next year the buyout is still going to be too much for almost any school. It would still be the largest buyout a school has eaten. Second, while I think Manning has a bright future and will be a very good OC, the jury is still out. An SEC or BIG program that thinks they are big time is probably going to be hesitant to throw all that cash to have an OC that was a MAC OL coach two years ago and put up 24-25 ppg in the conference that "doesn't play any defense".
Now, I think you back up the truck, pay big and go as long as possible because Campbell is THE guy and this staff is outstanding. However, that leverage can be applied to still include a substantial buyout.
JP knows that we have 5-6 years to be a desirable team when conference apocalypse comes. He knows he has to go all in.

 

[FarminCy]

I know SEC teams have deep pockets, but are they that deep even, especially when they might be buying one coach out (or still paying the one before that) even?



The only ones I would be tremendously fearful of...

Ohio State - Urban is not going anywhere unless he retires

Michigan - Harbaugh might be there for a long time

Notre Dame - Kelly was a little iffy there for awhile, and there were rumors last year that he interviewed in Eugene, Oregon, maybe trying to get out of town, but he seems to have righted the ship, but I could see this being a real problem in a few years if they are ready to move on from him... Campbell is a well-spoken, young, Catholic man with a beautiful family, an Ohio upbringing, and a Midwestern ethos... he screams ND if coach-in-waiting anybody does...

Michigan State - looks like Dantonio has righted the ship, as well, but could be a possibility

Penn State - looks like Franklin will be their guy for a long time, as well

We all better cheer for the Irish the next few years. They are the sword over our heads.

I don’t think Harbaugh is going to be there long term.

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

Agree that it's a pretty unprecedented buyout.

current (2017) 8 figure buyouts

Dabo Swinney ($40 million)
Jimbo Fisher ($39.3 million)
Chris Petersen ($30.6 million)
Nick Saban ($26.9 million)
Kirk Ferentz ($22.5 million)
James Franklin ($22 million)
Urban Meyer ($21.3 million)
Jim Harbaugh ($20.5 million)
Tom Herman ($20.4 million)
Bronco Mendenhall ($17.4 million)
Lovie Smith ($16.5 million)
Jeff Brohm ($15.8 million)
Mark Stoops ($15 million)
Lincoln Riley ($15 million)
Justsin Fuente ($15 million)
Bobby Petrino ($14 million)
Mike Gundry ($13.8 million)
Mike MacIntyre ($13.4 million)
Jim McElwain ($13 million)
Jim Mora ($12.2 million)
Todd Graham ($12.2 million)
Kyle Wittingham ($12 million)
Kirby Smart ($11 million)
Kevin Sumlin ($10.4 million)
Dana Holgerson ($10.1 million)

 

[jsb]

Dabo Swinney ($40 million)
Jimbo Fisher ($39.3 million)
Chris Petersen ($30.6 million)
Nick Saban ($26.9 million)
Kirk Ferentz ($22.5 million)
James Franklin ($22 million)
Urban Meyer ($21.3 million)
Jim Harbaugh ($20.5 million)
Tom Herman ($20.4 million)
Bobby Petrino ($14 million)
Mike Gundry ($13.8 million)
Jim McElwain ($13 million)
Kevin Sumlin ($10.4 million)

Are those the buyouts if they leave? Or just if they are fired?

 

[Sigmapolis]

current (2017) 8 figure buyouts

Dabo Swinney ($40 million)
Jimbo Fisher ($39.3 million)
Chris Petersen ($30.6 million)
Nick Saban ($26.9 million)
Kirk Ferentz ($22.5 million)
James Franklin ($22 million)
Urban Meyer ($21.3 million)
Jim Harbaugh ($20.5 million)
Tom Herman ($20.4 million)
Bronco Mendenhall ($17.4 million)
Lovie Smith ($16.5 million)
Jeff Brohm ($15.8 million)
Mark Stoops ($15 million)
Lincoln Riley ($15 million)
Justsin Fuente ($15 million)
Bobby Petrino ($14 million)
Mike Gundry ($13.8 million)
Mike MacIntyre ($13.4 million)
Jim McElwain ($13 million)
Jim Mora ($12.2 million)
Todd Graham ($12.2 million)
Kyle Wittingham ($12 million)
Kirby Smart ($11 million)
Kevin Sumlin ($10.4 million)
Dana Holgerson ($10.1 million)

So TAMU just wrote FSU at $40MM check?

 

[Bader]

So TAMU just wrote FSU at $40MM check?

According to this FSU is owed the remaining contract of any assistant that is not retained. Somewhere around $7 mil this year. The $40 mil is only if Jimbo is fired (I assume the same is true for most of mtown's list)

 

[SimpsonCyclone]

I'm hearing there will be a new contract for CMC and also a higher assistant salary pool. Should be announced in the next 1-3 days. They want to have this announced before staff goes out to wrap up the 2018 class (coaches go back out on Wednesday). This is second hand info, so take it for what its worth.

Side note: IF CMC would ever leave, I have 2 names on my list to start:
Jason Candle
Lou Ayeni

Think how great it would have been to have Toledo hire a different coach..
Candle was here to be the OC at before he was hired as HC

 

[AuH2O]

current (2017) 8 figure buyouts

Dabo Swinney ($40 million)
Jimbo Fisher ($39.3 million)
Chris Petersen ($30.6 million)
Nick Saban ($26.9 million)
Kirk Ferentz ($22.5 million)
James Franklin ($22 million)
Urban Meyer ($21.3 million)
Jim Harbaugh ($20.5 million)
Tom Herman ($20.4 million)
Bronco Mendenhall ($17.4 million)
Lovie Smith ($16.5 million)
Jeff Brohm ($15.8 million)
Mark Stoops ($15 million)
Lincoln Riley ($15 million)
Justsin Fuente ($15 million)
Bobby Petrino ($14 million)
Mike Gundry ($13.8 million)
Mike MacIntyre ($13.4 million)
Jim McElwain ($13 million)
Jim Mora ($12.2 million)
Todd Graham ($12.2 million)
Kyle Wittingham ($12 million)
Kirby Smart ($11 million)
Kevin Sumlin ($10.4 million)
Dana Holgerson ($10.1 million)

I meant the largest buyout a school has paid to another school to hire a coach. By reports have seen that has McElwain by Florida, which was $5-7 M I believe, with some being reportedly out of McElwains pocket.

 

[Sigmapolis]

I'm hearing there will be a new contract for CMC and also a higher assistant salary pool. Should be announced in the next 1-3 days. They want to have this announced before staff goes out to wrap up the 2018 class (coaches go back out on Wednesday). This is second hand info, so take it for what its worth.

Side note: IF CMC would ever leave, I have 2 names on my list to start:
Jason Candle
Lou Ayeni

Think how great it would have been to have Toledo hire a different coach..
Candle was here to be the OC at before he was hired as HC

No love for coordinators Manning and Heacock?

 

[HardcoreClone]

I'm hearing there will be a new contract for CMC and also a higher assistant salary pool. Should be announced in the next 1-3 days. They want to have this announced before staff goes out to wrap up the 2018 class (coaches go back out on Wednesday). This is second hand info, so take it for what its worth.

Side note: IF CMC would ever leave, I have 2 names on my list to start:
Jason Candle
Lou Ayeni

Think how great it would have been to have Toledo hire a different coach..
Candle was here to be the OC at before he was hired as HC

I've always wondered how much it would have helped if Candle stayed at ISU to be OC, and Manning was strictly OL coach? Personally I like Manning, think he is a bright mind and willing to adapt. Yes, he's definitely made mistakes and learning on the job, but I have no desire to see him fired like some have posted on here. I'm sure it wouldn't have hurt if Candle stayed. More experience calling plays, even more staff continuity than we already have seen.

Any idea what type of scheme and program a HC Lou Ayeni would have? Similar to Campbell?

 

[bawbie]

I know SEC teams have deep pockets, but are they that deep even, especially when they might be buying one coach out (or still paying the one before that) even?



The only ones I would be tremendously fearful of...

Ohio State - Urban is not going anywhere unless he retires

Michigan - Harbaugh might be there for a long time

Notre Dame - Kelly was a little iffy there for awhile, and there were rumors last year that he interviewed in Eugene, Oregon, maybe trying to get out of town, but he seems to have righted the ship, but I could see this being a real problem in a few years if they are ready to move on from him... Campbell is a well-spoken, young, Catholic man with a beautiful family, an Ohio upbringing, and a Midwestern ethos... he screams ND if coach-in-waiting anybody does...

Michigan State - looks like Dantonio has righted the ship, as well, but could be a possibility

Penn State - looks like Franklin will be their guy for a long time, as well

We all better cheer for the Irish the next few years. They are the sword over our heads.

one of these things is not like the others - why does MSU get lumped in with the other 4? They aren't nearly as good and don't have nearly the tradition or fan base. that would be much more of a lateral move, IMO

 

[SimpsonCyclone]

No love for coordinators Manning and Heacock?

Yeah, i have love for them. They are great coordinators. I don't like the idea of Heacock as a head coach. Manning - I think he has potential but not yet. He would be my third choice.

#1 is Candle though - I think he is a star in the making
#2 is Ayeni - basically 1(b) for me - I give Candle the nod because he has lead a program himself the last 2 years (and has Toledo in the MAC championship game).
#3 Manning - Basically out of continuity and the fact he comes from the same background/philosophies/foundation as CMC.

With all that said - expect CMC to get his extension/raise announced soon.

 

[Sigmapolis]

one of these things is not like the others - why does MSU get lumped in with the other 4? They aren't nearly as good and don't have nearly the tradition or fan base. that would be much more of a lateral move, IMO

I did not put them in any particular order.

Michigan State would be #5 of the five for the reasons you mention, however.

It is a Midwestern job in the Big Ten with a school that might be able to write a big check that has at least some recent tradition and success.

They got blown out, but they made the playoff two years ago.

That is more than Iowa State can say.

I consider that one unlikely -- Campbell is smart enough to wait for Urban to retire, for Harbaugh to wear out his welcome or go back to the NFL to make a run at a Super Bowl, or for Notre Dame to finally move on from Kelly -- but it is not entirely lateral.

 

[Win5002]

Campbell needs to be here through the 2023-2024 reshuffling.

Nothing else matter, JP. That is the meteor coming for the dinosaurs.

We have to be well-positioned in football at that time. Make it happen.

This post is on to something I think. I'm not saying the Big 12 is done for sure(I would put the chances of realignment 35-50%) but its possible there is major realignment at the next tv deal. Granted its message board fodder from some people but the fact ISU is AAU tends to help give them some consideration from other leagues in a 4 team addition to the SEC or a 6 team addition to the PAC. A solid run in football even just 7-8 win seasons with an entrenched coach, that is drawing upper 58-60K a game in football, and a new market in the age of conference networks even though its not a big one to either of those leagues could help ISU if the Big 12 gets decimated.

 

[bosco]

I know SEC teams have deep pockets, but are they that deep even, especially when they might be buying one coach out (or still paying the one before that) even?



The only ones I would be tremendously fearful of...

Ohio State - Urban is not going anywhere unless he retires

Michigan - Harbaugh might be there for a long time

Notre Dame - Kelly was a little iffy there for awhile, and there were rumors last year that he interviewed in Eugene, Oregon, maybe trying to get out of town, but he seems to have righted the ship, but I could see this being a real problem in a few years if they are ready to move on from him... Campbell is a well-spoken, young, Catholic man with a beautiful family, an Ohio upbringing, and a Midwestern ethos... he screams ND if coach-in-waiting anybody does...

Michigan State - looks like Dantonio has righted the ship, as well, but could be a possibility

Penn State - looks like Franklin will be their guy for a long time, as well

We all better cheer for the Irish the next few years. They are the sword over our heads.

I'm sorry but I think it would be a Hard sell to those fan bases MC as their HC. Threse programs expect better resumed HC than Matt. Now in a few years if MC has ISU rolling to 9-10 win seasons consistently then ill be scared.