Lard doesn't dislike Prohm. Neither does any semi intelligent Iowa State fan. Stop stirring **** up for absolutely no reason.
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Lard doesn't dislike Prohm. Neither does any semi intelligent Iowa State fan. Stop stirring **** up for absolutely no reason.
Could have been his health...he's not been really healthy in a long time. I remember the game when he collapsed because his pacemaker gave him a jolt to reset his heart rhythm. Dude stayed out there and coached the rest of the game.
Say what you want about his brand of basketball, Huggs really cares a ton for his kids, and he's a legendary coach (one of 10 coaches all time with 800+ wins). I hope he's taking care of himself off the court.
Funny how Talley was the key to breaking the WVU press.
He handles the ball well for a SF, and I think WVU was scared to double him because that meant leaving either Wiggi or Jackson unguarded.
We saw what they can do when you give them windows, either shooting, streaking to the basket, or finding an open man for a bunny.
The spacing helped in that, given their rotations would take approximately a Martian year to close any gaps, so that gave everybody lots of space and time.
Honestly, and I know it is Press Virginia, but they would have been better off trying to force us into a half-court game and mucking it up from there.
We are better when we are full-court and fast.
He handles the ball well for a SF, and I think WVU was scared to double him because that meant leaving either Wiggi or Jackson unguarded.
We saw what they can do when you give them windows, either shooting, streaking to the basket, or finding an open man for a bunny.
The spacing helped in that, given their rotations would take approximately a Martian year to close any gaps, so that gave everybody lots of space and time.
Honestly, and I know it is Press Virginia, but they would have been better off trying to force us into a half-court game and mucking it up from there.
We are better when we are full-court and fast.
Apparently our coach.
Sure, from a fan's view though we couldn't see it due to injury, etc..
Honestly the gameplan was great, and the execution was simply breathtaking. How many times against the press did we see only one or two dribbles to get the ball all the way down the court? It was long pass, long pass, good shot or easy play. The passes were quick and crisp. It was beautiful basketball to watch, and everybody did great coaches and players alike.
Prohm does get both the blame and credit. He's the head honcho. But if anybody can't give him a huge amount of credit for crafting a gameplan and getting his guys ready without Weiler-Babb in the lineup that's a personal problem for them.
There were rumors abounding that Talley was really good before the season, and possibly even intended as the starter instead of Jeff Beverly.
Then some disciplinary actions happened that cost him the first two games.
Then the injury cost him around a third of the season.
Having him back and 100% is certainly helping. He has great lateral quickness and length as a perimeter defender and is a good ball-handler, and he is pretty action active and aggressive in going for the rim and chasing his own shot.
Not much of an outside shooter, though, but we knew that.
He wasn’t suspended for the first two games.
Given what was said before the start of the regular season and how he was one of the best performers against Missouri and in the Milwaukee disaster, it’s surprising this role wasn’t explored prior to his injury or after.
You are right -- I was thinking Lard for "issues" and Brase for injury.
Talley played in those two games.
Still sucks that he lost so much of the year to his own injury, though.
It certainly does, same with Long, and we knew it as soon as those injuries were announced. It arguably was sizable enough to cost two conference games, if not just unquantifiable development time. Given the usage before and after the injury Prohm may not have fully utilized Talley anyways, but that’s for another thread.
Which is why some fans probably shouldn't bag on players so much. We see the players for 2 hours during a game and make judgments based on that. The coaches see the players way more than that and can make informed decisions way better than the fans because they have a much better idea of what is going on with everybody, even off the court. So, trust the process?
On a side note, anybody remember what happened a year ago this time? We had just lost at home by 13 to West Virginia and there was much airing of grievances. and we had the unpleasant prospect of a trip to Kansas coming up. Hopefully, these guys have clicked like that team did last year.
We would be in such a different position this season if we had won the Texas and Oklahoma State games -- we had them both on the ropes at the end.
If we were 5-4 in conference and 14-7 overall...?
We would not have punched our ticket yet, but we would be in great position to do so if we ended up 9-9 or 8-10 and won a game or two in KC.
Alas. That Tennessee game still sucks, and this lack of consistency if what you expect from a young and inexperienced team, but they have definitely showed they can do it. We are setup nice for next year with the reinforcements coming.
Talley has bought into his roll on this team and he is so much better because he did. His is not chucking up so many threes, now he is driving the ball, playing good D, and rebounding.
Without NWB, multiple guys knew the had to handle the basketball and that turned out to be really effective against WVU.
Really fun game to watch.
Without NWB, multiple guys knew the had to handle the basketball and that turned out to be really effective against WVU.
Really fun game to watch.
The "we want Fred" chants were more embarrassing on Saturday. I had forgotten how stupid college kids are.
Very true, as well as having a full roster and Babb (or Talley) at pg for Milwaukee and Missouri.
But many non-tournament and even teams with poor records can go down that road. 2010-11 had many close losses in a similar fashion to this year’s Ok St and Texas losses. That year statistically played better than this one, too.
Consistency, intra and inter-game game, is often what separates. Saying our inconsistencies and inefficiencies are greater than what our inexperience and youth alone facilitate is not the equivalent of calling for Prohm’s firing. In the end, we’re shorthanded enough that for a successful year we needed Prohm to push the right buttons and for the breaks to go our way. Neither has occurred imo.
Ever since I saw the pictures of Huggins on the ground comforting his player when he blew out his knee a couple years back, I knew I liked Huggins. I hate his style of basketball. But damnit, I respect that guy so much because of how much he cares about and invests in his players.
He's really impressive with his ball handling and poise. Great ball security, made the right decisions, and when a path opened for him to score, he took it. Exactly what we needed out of him.
Nader, Niang, and Burton combined had 38 assists to 54 TOs against that press, 2.4/3.4 A/TO ratio. Assists and turnovers don’t tell the whole story, but Talley was much better than those three. The poor WVU press gets some of the credit, too.
