Monte mentioned in federal documents

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I hope Monté has the receipt with his credit card number and signature on it.

They are just trying to make their story seem better.

Monte never signed with that agent, so I doubt that agent was giving him money. Miles bridges and Collin Sexton are named with bigger issues. I wouldn’t be shocked if Monte had dinner with them and an agent.
 

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What do you mean by taking care of?

I assume he means make sure 18 year olds don't party their signing bonus away, get involved with the wrong people, and ruin their lives and careers.

College isn't a perfect environment by far, but there are at least some rules and oversight in place to help teenagers learn how to be adults.

Give a cocky 18 year old millions of dollars and see how well he does with it.
They had issues with kids getting drafted from high school before they changed the rule several years ago. And teams ended up reaching on young guys for potential and having the kids flame out before even sniffing a career.

I think the G-League is better prepared to handle it now, but even one year in college can help a kid mature a lot.
 

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I assume he means make sure 18 year olds don't party their signing bonus away, get involved with the wrong people, and ruin their lives and careers.

College isn't a perfect environment by far, but there are at least some rules and oversight in place to help teenagers learn how to be adults.

Give a cocky 18 year old millions of dollars and see how well he does with it.
They had issues with kids getting drafted from high school before they changed the rule several years ago. And teams ended up reaching on young guys for potential and having the kids flame out before even sniffing a career.

I think the G-League is better prepared to handle it now, but even one year in college can help a kid mature a lot.

Perhaps. But shouldn't that be their decision? The NBA didn't impose the rule to protect the players. They did it to protect the teams. Actually, if I remember right, a kid can go straight to the gleague now if he wants. I wonder if more kids will start doing this?
 
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Do you seriously think that the NBA would care for kids better than DI coaches do?

Sort of greedy pigs versus greedy pigs senario. The NBA is run by rich greedy pigs. The NCAA is afraid of the greedy pigs at ESPN and the blue blood cash cows. Under all of this fall a bunch of kids with NBA aspiration that only a small percentage will actually realize. What a cluster **** it all is.

Do agree that maybe turning a bunch of 18-year olds into professional minor league vagabonds maybe isn't the best option for a lot of the kids. Works out for some of the island kids drafted as young teens in baseball but you don't hear the story of what happens to all of those kids that never make it past A ball. What happens/happened to them?
 

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Unfortunately there is more than one ISU tie in this report. Nerlens Noel took a loan. I don't know if this is common knowledge, but he played prep ball with Georges....that's how Niang learned to be so crafty around the basket.

We're screwed.
Wait, Georges played with Nerlen Noel? This is the first I've heard of this! How did they keep that a secret?
 

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Perhaps. But shouldn't that be their decision? The NBA didn't impose the rule to protect the players. They did it to protect the teams. Actually, if I remember right, a kid can go straight to the gleague now if he wants. I wonder if more kids will start doing this?

I don't follow the NBA enough to know if the product has actually improved since the 1 and Done rule was put in place or not. I think the NBA is benefiting from having players use that one year in college to weed out who is good enough for the NBA or not. There are usually those no doubt guys who get drafted anyway, but there's a decent number of guys who could have been One and Done lottery picks, who end up staying another year or two in college to develop.

The problem with the NBA is that they are obsessed with youth and potential, so much so that they take more chances on young guys than they probably should.


I think the G-League can be a good option for a guy who doesn't want to go to college, but I doubt they will get as much money as they would after one year dominating in college and getting drafted higher.

How does that work now anyways? Teams can't draft high school guys, right? But they can play in the G-League for a year? Are they free agents then who have to get signed to play in the G-League?
 

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I don't follow the NBA enough to know if the product has actually improved since the 1 and Done rule was put in place or not. I think the NBA is benefiting from having players use that one year in college to weed out who is good enough for the NBA or not. There are usually those no doubt guys who get drafted anyway, but there's a decent number of guys who could have been One and Done lottery picks, who end up staying another year or two in college to develop.

The problem with the NBA is that they are obsessed with youth and potential, so much so that they take more chances on young guys than they probably should.


I think the G-League can be a good option for a guy who doesn't want to go to college, but I doubt they will get as much money as they would after one year dominating in college and getting drafted higher.

How does that work now anyways? Teams can't draft high school guys, right? But they can play in the G-League for a year? Are they free agents then who have to get signed to play in the G-League?

Yeah, good question. I guess they would be drafted. Probably works the same for if a guy goes overseas and plays.
 

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Sort of greedy pigs versus greedy pigs senario. The NBA is run by rich greedy pigs. The NCAA is afraid of the greedy pigs at ESPN and the blue blood cash cows. Under all of this fall a bunch of kids with NBA aspiration that only a small percentage will actually realize. What a cluster **** it all is.

Do agree that maybe turning a bunch of 18-year olds into professional minor league vagabonds maybe isn't the best option for a lot of the kids. Works out for some of the island kids drafted as young teens in baseball but you don't hear the story of what happens to all of those kids that never make it past A ball. What happens/happened to them?

I see it as organizations that at least have to keep up appearances and actually have a somewhat reasonable "contract" structure to organizations that are solely run for profit, and whose contracts for marginal players offer no guarantees. A business has little regard for people that cannot satisfactorily complete their assigned tasks.
 

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Perhaps. But shouldn't that be their decision? The NBA didn't impose the rule to protect the players. They did it to protect the teams. Actually, if I remember right, a kid can go straight to the gleague now if he wants. I wonder if more kids will start doing this?
I don't understand it well, but assuming the straight out of HS guys can't sign two way contracts won't they make 25-30k? Do you think that's a better quality of life than being a star player at a top school? I think very few guys are going to go straight to the G League. They need to get rid of the one and done rule. It is only in place to make it easier on NBA teams.
 
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What a week for ISU MBB... The injuries to NWB and Young, Donovan's dad passing and now Monte linked to the NCAA investigation.

It could be worse though, at least the season is close to over and NWB/Young will be able to get healthy for ISU's comeback year, D-Jax balling out against TCU, and it is a bad look but Monte only appears to have met for a dinner and not named as receiving a "loan" as a number of current/former players.

I assume that is a minor violation if it can be proven MM didn't pay for his food (unless the NCAA decides to make an example of this case due to the publicity).
 

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Sort of greedy pigs versus greedy pigs senario. The NBA is run by rich greedy pigs. The NCAA is afraid of the greedy pigs at ESPN and the blue blood cash cows. Under all of this fall a bunch of kids with NBA aspiration that only a small percentage will actually realize. What a cluster **** it all is.

Do agree that maybe turning a bunch of 18-year olds into professional minor league vagabonds maybe isn't the best option for a lot of the kids. Works out for some of the island kids drafted as young teens in baseball but you don't hear the story of what happens to all of those kids that never make it past A ball. What happens/happened to them?
The NBA is a business. They are no more greedy than any other business. I don't know that'd I'd call them "greedy pigs". They want high school players to play a year in college to help with evaluation. There is nothing wrong with that. The NBA doesn't force them to go to college either.
 

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I don't understand it well, but assuming the straight out of HS guys can't sign two way contracts won't they make 25-30k? Do you think that's a better quality of life than being a star player at a top school? I think very few guys are going to go straight to the G League. They need to get rid of the one and done rule. It is only in place to make it easier on NBA teams.

I agree if a high school player is good enough to be be a professional they should be able to do that if that is their choice. No point in forcing them to be one year out of prep ranks just to help NBA teams evaluation. The G-League aligning with specific teams and becoming a true development league for those franchises and raising the salaries is becoming a better option if they don't get drafted..
 

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It would be interesting if the FBI would ever go after the NCAA for their corruption at times such as the UNC thing and their so called fake classes and NCAA just swept that under the rug.
 

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I don't understand it well, but assuming the straight out of HS guys can't sign two way contracts won't they make 25-30k? Do you think that's a better quality of life than being a star player at a top school? I think very few guys are going to go straight to the G League. They need to get rid of the one and done rule. It is only in place to make it easier on NBA teams.

Well ya, that's why the NBA made the rule. The NCAA didn't make it. It's clearly working for the NBA, why would they change it?
 

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We will gladly accept the penalty of playing at West Virginia with 6 scholarships.
 
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Since Monte is from Michigan, just gotta stick the knife into Izzo a little deeper. Miles Bridges linked to impermissible benefits, sex assault scandal. Money Sex University.

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