Vick (KU) announces he is going pro

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The funny thing is I really didn't know the answer to that question when I asked it and still don't but the fact that @randomfan44 rated it as funny means it must have been one of their early flame outs in the tourney
no, whats funny is the leap of logic you are attempting to make.
 

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How did Cunliffe's prior points translate for KU this last year?
God, you are so bad at this. Was Cunliffe playing a similar role at Kansas that he did at ASU? No. Will the Lawson's and Moore? Yes. All of their point totals will be down because KU has 10+ guys that are solid players but they will be solid contributors.

The point was that KU adds not only freshmen but experienced players.
 
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Vick may be addition by subtraction, but Newman was a stud down the stretch and will be hard to replace.
So was Mason. And Ellis. And Wiggins. And Embiid. And on and on and on. We do this all the time.
 

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It’ll be surprising if KU’s guard play is what you typically see advance far in March. Luckily for them the big dogs like Nova will have some turnover, too. Can you imagine this year’s Nova team against KU’s new backcourt? Like a hot knife through butter.
 

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They gotta get some help at guard or they'll end like Michigan State or Duke this year. Just not enough guard play to really be as good as they should have.

That's a good point. Experienced guard play can be an effective counter. What are the other teams in the conference returning from their 17-18 backcourt?
 

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How is that a leap? I literally just asked how KU did the two years they lost a ton of their production. You're taking the Vick and Newman news hard
Newman was guaranteed to leave and Vick leaving probably gets us Langford who is a trade up. So no, not taking it hard at all.

Just exasperated arguing with someone so amateurish in their debate skills.
 

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God, you are so bad at this. Was Cunliffe playing a similar role at Kansas that he did at ASU? No. Will the Lawson's and Moore? Yes. All of their point totals will be down because KU has 10+ guys that are solid players but they will be solid contributors.

The point was that KU adds not only freshmen but experienced players.

If Moore's usage rate is even close to what it was at Cal you guys are in trouble
 

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God, you are so bad at this. Was Cunliffe playing a similar role at Kansas that he did at ASU? No. Will the Lawson's and Moore? Yes. All of their point totals will be down because KU has 10+ guys that are solid players but they will be solid contributors.

The point was that KU adds not only freshmen but experienced players.
So you’re acknowledging that all that talent has diminishing returns? I agree.

Although KU may have a full roster of talented players, I don’t see it being of the composition that’s overwhelming.
 

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Newman was guaranteed to leave and Vick leaving probably gets us Langford who is a trade up. So no, not taking it hard at all.

Just exasperated arguing with someone so amateurish in their debate skills.

Why are you acting like a child about this? You mentioned two times KU had to replace a ton of production and I asked without even knowing (honestly I didn't know) how they did the next year and came to find out they flamed out in the tourney both times
 

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That's a good point. Experienced guard play can be an effective counter. What are the other teams in the conference returning from their 17-18 backcourt?
The league, generally, is taking a serious hit beyond Ku's loses including Carter and Miles at WVU, Evans at TxT, Lecomte at Baylor, and Young at OU. oSu is pretty much wiped out.