Urban Meyer Lied About Ohio State Coach's Domestic Abuse

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I wonder what Tom Herman and Texas have for contract language. Herman had to know!

Herman wasn't in charge though so I don't see anything falling on him. Only Urban, Gene or the Prez could have forced the assistant out and they didn't.
 

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You've got to be kidding me. There are text messages the wife sent to the rest of the coaches wives. There are police reports.
It sounds like urban talked to the guy about it and didn't know what to believe. If the police and D.A. already knew about it but refused to press charges, what does he have the power to do?
 

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It sounds like urban talked to the guy about it and didn't know what to believe. If the police and D.A. already knew about it but refused to press charges, what does he have the power to do?
Where did you read this?
 

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Where did you read this?
May have misunderstood but it was in the texts, CNN just wrote when unban was asked about the abuse he knew of the 2009 incident but not the 2015 incident so that's a little misleading because I thought i read he denied knowing anything about any abuse.
 

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People keep acting like Meyer has to prove he didn't know anything to keep his job, like it's Watergate or something, but I don't think that is necessarily the case.

"Hi I'm Urban. I heard these reports, and talked to several people about what to do. Because of (insert lame excuse here - charges weren't filed/he wasn't convicted/they were trying to work it out) I wasn't sure what to do and therefore did nothing. In retrospect, I should have taken more decisive action. I'm deeply sorry I failed to do so. I will be donating $1M to a local battered women's shelter to express my deep regret."

And then they keep him.

I guarantee you TPTB at OSU are weighing firing him vs the fallout of keeping him and using a "heartfelt" statement like the above. I'm not saying they won't fire him, but don't kid yourself if you think it's impossible he stays.

That said, I think Urban will be ok bailing out into the buyout life for a while, and that's what will happen. Hell, he may make the above statement and THEN take the buyout life.
 

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It sounds like urban talked to the guy about it and didn't know what to believe. If the police and D.A. already knew about it but refused to press charges, what does he have the power to do?

I've read about this angle as well...basically as I understand it the story can sound like the wife went to Urban to take action and didn't do enough on her end to keep the charges through the police (or something like that).

Urban technically didn't have a decision to make based on legal results, but as a head coach if there's any smoke about something like this, he should have at least investigated more into the situation, which he had the ability to do.

After the stuff from things like the PSU scandal, I'd think a head coach would make quick work and get rid of any assistant that even had an inkling of evidence of this kind of thing.
 
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I've read about this angle as well...basically as I understand it the story can sound like the wife went to Urban to take action and didn't do enough on her end to keep the charges through the police (or something like that).

Urban technically didn't have a decision to make based on legal results, but as a head coach if there's any smoke about something like this, he should have at least investigated more into the situation, which he had the ability to do.

After the stuff from things like the PSU scandal, I'd think a head coach would make quick work and get rid of any assistant that even had an inkling of evidence of this kind of thing.
I don't know how hard it is to fire someone under contract for allegations. I agree he should have looked into it further but not sure how a coach would do that. He could have talked to the athletic director and the A.D. could have taken over from there. I don't know if it's turning a blind eye but you usually trust your close friends so I can see the predicament he was in.
 
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I don't know how hard it is to fire someone under contract for allegations. I agree he should have looked into it further but not sure how a coach would do that. He could have talked to the athletic director and the A.D. could have taken over from there. I don't know if it's turning a blind eye but you usually trust your close friends so I can see the predicament he was in.

Not really. He knew something was going on. He intervened in 2009. His mentor intervened. Don’t tell me it didn’t come up. His wife clearly knew. Either she’s evil enough that she didn’t tell him or he knew and did nothing.

I find it depressing that anyone is making excuses for him.
 

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Some of you guys are missing the point. IF the allegations are true, Urb had very powerful men in his circle pressure this woman into dropping the charges. Again, he didn't just ignore the issue, he assisted in actively covering it up. Allegedly.
 
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I don't know how hard it is to fire someone under contract for allegations. I agree he should have looked into it further but not sure how a coach would do that. He could have talked to the athletic director and the A.D. could have taken over from there. I don't know if it's turning a blind eye but you usually trust your close friends so I can see the predicament he was in.

Eh, close friend or not, domestic abuse is a big deal. That's not a predicament. Him being an assistant is the business aspect and if that's a concern, Urban Meyer shouldn't mix friends with business.

Agree he should have told the A.D. or some other official since it sounds like OSU's A.D. is awful on his own end.
 

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Not really. He knew something was going on. He intervened in 2009. His mentor intervened. Don’t tell me it didn’t come up. His wife clearly knew. Either she’s evil enough that she didn’t tell him or he knew and did nothing.

I find it depressing that anyone is making excuses for him.
He was wrong. Putting myself in his shoes, if a close personal friend who I trusted had gone through an ugly divorce and the ex wife was claiming abuse and he denied it to me, I would take his side. Family and friends often never believe a person is guilty even if it is proven true. My only point is it's easy for strangers to sit in judgment, because I would find it hard to not believe my friend.
 

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Some of you guys are missing the point. IF the allegations are true, Urb had very powerful men in his circle pressure this woman into dropping the charges. Again, he didn't just ignore the issue, he assisted in actively covering it up. Allegedly.
Not only that, but he was also considered a mandatory reporter under university rules (and maybe title ix, though i’m not positive) and had a responsibility to report knowledge of domestic violence. It looks like he didn’t do that.

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...keyes-places-urban-meyer-administrative-leave
 

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He was wrong. Putting myself in his shoes, if a close personal friend who I trusted had gone through an ugly divorce and the ex wife was claiming abuse and he denied it to me, I would take his side. Family and friends often never believe a person is guilty even if it is proven true. My only point is it's easy for strangers to sit in judgment, because I would find it hard to not believe my friend.

Wasn't there incidents prior to their divorce? And how else does she get those injuries? And what about Smith's trespassing incident last winter?
 

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Some of you guys are missing the point. IF the allegations are true, Urb had very powerful men in his circle pressure this woman into dropping the charges. Again, he didn't just ignore the issue, he assisted in actively covering it up. Allegedly.

If this part comes out as true, he has to be gone in a mili-second.





Doesn't he?
 

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Wasn't there incidents prior to their divorce? And how else does she get those injuries? And what about Smith's trespassing incident last winter?
I'm not saying it's excusable, but understandable. He made a mistake in trusting his friend. If like the above post he covered it up to protect the program he's a terrible person and should be terminated immediately.
 
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