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As others seem to not get this isn’t something you do Friday or Saturday. It is something you plan for early in the week like finding possible hotel accommodations for SDSU on Saturday. You work with all staff on the potential of an earlier start. .

Based on a LONG-RANGE weather forecast at least a week in advance?

I'm going to retire in a year and will be having an outdoor retirement party. Let me check the almanac to see what the weather will be because I might not want to bring a jacket.

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We just spent 400,000-500,000 dollars for nothing we could have paid for the hotel even if not used.
If I read this right, you’re saying that we should have reserved 50-75 hotel rooms “just Incase”.

On a busy holiday weekend when hotel rooms are in high demand—at the very least, disaccomodating people who actually have a need for a room.

When this has never happened before...and the odds are that it will be a very long time before it does again.

Please, stop and think about that.
 

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As others seem to not get this isn’t something you do Friday or Saturday. It is something you plan for early in the week like finding possible hotel accommodations for SDSU on Saturday. You work with all staff on the potential of an earlier start. Personally I think Friday or early Saturday they should have moved it up to 5 or 6. That doesn’t mean it is neccessarily the only or right solution. The game was likely going to go to 10:30 or so anyway so you want to give cushion and to let people leave before the storm. The main issue is there doesn’t seem to have been any planning for the possibility of the storms affecting the game.



The problem was it was to short well before they called it. As soon as that second cell formed it wasn’t possible. They still took 30 minutes to an hour to call it.


You realize the forecast was only for a relatively small chance of thunderstorms and if this stalled front had been just 5 miles or so further south the game would have completed. I thought they stopped the game too soon as I wasn't seeing lightning on the radar image within 8 miles until about 40 minutes to an hour after they stopped the game. They have better products available then I did on my phone I'm sure, and the 8 mile rule is a NCAA thing. Impossible to adjust to unpredictable weather.
 

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Read this part of the article?



I'm guessing there are about 4 hotels in DSM with the necessary accommodations for a CFB team. Teams aren't just staying in a Super 8. I'm guessing Labor Day weekend they're all doing a smidge of business.

You big silly... THAT'S why the contingency planning is needed! You book 15+ geographically discreet hotels complexes in the mid-west +/- 4 days either side of game day just in case the forecast changes. Then you pay the 1,000+ folks who make the event happen a non-refundable retainer for being available at your whim. Then you get the personal contact numbers of all ticket holders so you can communicate with them and allow them to change their travel plans in the event one of these COMPLETELY KNOWN AND KNOWABLE act of god events happens god forbid.
 

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As others seem to not get this isn’t something you do Friday or Saturday. It is something you plan for early in the week like finding possible hotel accommodations for SDSU on Saturday. You work with all staff on the potential of an earlier start. Personally I think Friday or early Saturday they should have moved it up to 5 or 6. That doesn’t mean it is neccessarily the only or right solution. The game was likely going to go to 10:30 or so anyway so you want to give cushion and to let people leave before the storm. The main issue is there doesn’t seem to have been any planning for the possibility of the storms affecting the game.



The problem was it was to short well before they called it. As soon as that second cell formed it wasn’t possible. They still took 30 minutes to an hour to call it.


You realize the forecast was only for a relatively small chance of thunderstorms and if this stalled front had been just 5 miles or so further south the game would have completed. I thought they stopped the game too soon as I wasn't seeing lightning on the radar image within 8 miles until about 40 minutes to an hour after they stopped the game. They have better products available then I did on my phone I'm sure, and the 8 mile rule is a NCAA thing. Impossible to adjust to unpredictable weather. No one died, things were handled fine.
 

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Super easy - just do FB posts and say - hey to all you 60,000 - 65,000 folks involved directly and indirectly in this game - why don't ya'll just pop in 2 hours early? THANKs and have a sun shiny day!!

That's nice for people that live in central Iowa that can make that kind of adjustment to their day and still make the game easily, but what about people that live much further away? Those 2 hours you're asking for may be the difference between whether some fans will be able to make the trip or not. Let's use me as an extreme example - I live 10 hours away from Ames (with no stops, but with a time change at the Indiana-Michigan border). If I'm driving from my home to a 7:00 PM game, I'm leaving at 7 AM and, assuming the drive goes perfectly, I'm arriving two hours early to the game, get to wander around for an hour or so before I head to the stadium for the game. Now, sometime around 9 AM the ISU AD puts out a statement that they've decided to push the kick early by two hours. I'm not even out of Michigan yet, only just entering the outer reaches of the Chicago metro area, and I already know I'm going to be late to the game because I won't be getting into Ames until the new kickoff time.

Now I get it, I'm an extreme example and I likely would have driven to my parents' house in Bettendorf the day before so this situation probably never plays out. But it's an extreme example of how "hey - let's move up the kick by two hours last minute" can mess with someone's day - ESPECIALLY when, at the time you're suggesting they make the decision move up the kick there was only a 30% chance of storms.
 

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You big silly... THAT'S why the contingency planning is needed! You book 15+ geographically discreet hotels complexes in the mid-west +/- 4 days either side of game day just in case the forecast changes. Then you pay the 1,000+ folks who make the event happen a non-refundable retainer for being available at your whim. Then you get the personal contact numbers of all ticket holders so you can communicate with them and allow them to change their travel plans in the event one of these COMPLETELY KNOWN AND KNOWABLE act of god events happens god forbid.

You don't make those kinds of plans for something that happens once every 50 years. Hell - you don't make those kinds of plans for something that happens once every 10 years.

And, for the record, you don't think that ISU could have found sleeping arrangements for SDSU if they wanted to play on Sunday? They (and ISU) didn't - they wanted to stick to their normal schedule of Sunday starting to prepare for the next week's game.
 

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That's nice for people that live in central Iowa that can make that kind of adjustment to their day and still make the game easily, but what about people that live much further away? Those 2 hours you're asking for may be the difference between whether some fans will be able to make the trip or not. Let's use me as an extreme example - I live 10 hours away from Ames (with no stops, but with a time change at the Indiana-Michigan border). If I'm driving from my home to a 7:00 PM game, I'm leaving at 7 AM and, assuming the drive goes perfectly, I'm arriving two hours early to the game, get to wander around for an hour or so before I head to the stadium for the game. Now, sometime around 9 AM the ISU AD puts out a statement that they've decided to push the kick early by two hours. I'm not even out of Michigan yet, only just entering the outer reaches of the Chicago metro area, and I already know I'm going to be late to the game because I won't be getting into Ames until the new kickoff time.

Now I get it, I'm an extreme example and I likely would have driven to my parents' house in Bettendorf the day before so this situation probably never plays out. But it's an extreme example of how "hey - let's move up the kick by two hours last minute" can mess with someone's day - ESPECIALLY when, at the time you're suggesting they make the decision move up the kick there was only a 30% chance of storms.

I'm with ya - I'm still mocking the original poster and some of the ludicrous thoughts from a few others...
 

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Maybe for the Oklahoma game we should have a contingency plan for an alien invasion. I mean, yeah it's never happened but they should probably be prepared.
Don’t be silly. For an alien invasion, they’d just use the plan for the zombie apocalypse, with minor modifications.