DeSousa Out This year and next

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Why? Because of a bias against KU? There is no proof he knew anything and the guardian and de Sousa have turned over all bank records. Think if this was an ISU player. NCAA is trying to look tough but is totally wrong as usual to punish this kid.

So you want players to get paid under the cloak of parents/guardians? Plausible deniability?

I am less concerned with the player than the school though. They know (and encourage) this stuff. Not the victim, but the beneficiary. At the absolute least, he should never suit up for KU
 

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The NCAA should ban Adidas from any association with college basketball as should any sponsor who pays money for a player to go to a certain school
 

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Adidas didn’t break any laws.

Hmm, Gato was convicted of federal fraud charges, he was an Adidas employee, just because the CEO may not have known about it does not absolve the company from liability


He gets sentenced in like a month.


Oh and lets not kid ourselves, Nike arranged Williamson to go to Duke as well.

One thing that would help minimize this stuff is the NBA just letting these kids into the league out of high school.

I mentioned this in another thread, they need to follow the lead of MLB or the the NHL, having several rounds of drafts, allowing kids to participate in minor leagues or retain their rights if they choose college for a couple of years. And let the kids have signing bonuses that professional teams provide regardless if they go to school or go to the minor leagues

I mean Murray got a signing bonus from the A's he could not play baseball for his college team but still play college football? Crazy.


It is just plain stupid to make these kids have to play college ball for 1 year..
 
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I'm still a little confused about the "he didn't know anything about it" line. If the student athletes knew nothing about any money changing hands why did they miraculously end up at the school offering the money?

I seem to remember a player being smacked hard because he played on a foreign team that had two players who received a small amount of money. Two teammates, not anyone associated with the player. I have zero sympathies for KU.

Frankly, I think KU pissed off the NCAA with all of their "we are the victim" talk earlier and they wanted to make sure they weren't made to look the fools in this anymore. I like how the NCAA added that the punishment for this is essentially the eligibility death penalty but they were lenient due to the specific circumstances.
 

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I wouldn't call this a slap on the wrist. Slap on the wrist would be "time served" or maybe the rest of this year. They're making him sit out the rest of this year and next. Sure, we'd all love to see K-Boo get the death penalty (was never going to happen over this), but I'd at minimum call this a slap to the face.
Yet another player taking the fall for KU’s recruiting tactics. Great work by KU framing the narrative on what the player knew, but the real continual violations are centered on what KU repeatedly knew.

Although KU has been circumventing NCAA standards for decades, I wouldn’t love to see the death penalty. That’s not good for the conference. But wins should be vacated and scholarships lost until those hayseeds get the message.
 

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They do have a right to complain about UNC, but it doesn't change the fact Kansas finally is paying the price for cheating. **** em

Paying, yeah, but at a huge discount compared to what a non-blueblood school would have to pay. Not that the kid isn't at fault, but he's the one stuck with the bill, while KU ate surf and turf and left $20 at the table.
 

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If you really want to do something about this then create a law to make it a crime to undermine a athlete's amateurism. Basically, anyone providing these gifts, whether individuals or companies, would be subject to prosecution. That would remove the burden from the NCAA and also provide a means for subpoena power to investigate. The tricky part would be that this would need to be at the federal level to prevent states from looking the other way to benefit thier own interests
 

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DeSousa probably left this morning on the first plane to Europe

And he rightly should. The common thing here is that the people and institutions with the money are not harmed one bit (NCAA and University's). KU didn't get to play another great recruit, wah. However, this really hurts the poor kids who don't get the training and showcase to further their careers and make some money. The system needs to die and quickly.
 

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If you really want to do something about this then create a law to make it a crime to undermine a athlete's amateurism. Basically, anyone providing these gifts, whether individuals or companies, would be subject to prosecution. That would remove the burden from the NCAA and also provide a means for subpoena power to investigate. The tricky part would be that this would need to be at the federal level to prevent states from looking the other way to benefit thier own interests

NO, the way to undermine the black market is ALWAYS to make it legal and above board.
 

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Hmm, Gato was convicted of federal fraud charges, he was an Adidas employee, just because the CEO may not have known about it does not absolve the company from liability


He gets sentenced in like a month.


Oh and lets not kid ourselves, Nike arranged Williamson to go to Duke as well.

One thing that would help minimize this stuff is the NBA just letting these kids into the league out of high school.

I mentioned this in another thread, they need to follow the lead of MLB or the the NHL, having several rounds of drafts, allowing kids to participate in minor leagues or retain their rights if they choose college for a couple of years. And let the kids have signing bonuses that professional teams provide regardless if they go to school or go to the minor leagues

I mean Murray got a signing bonus from the A's he could not play baseball for his college team but still play college football? Crazy.


It is just plain stupid to make these kids have to play college ball for 1 year..

I think we’re moving that way. 10 years ago, the D League was an absolute joke. Now it seems the G League is actually developing players to give them NBA opportunities
 

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NO, the way to undermine the black market is ALWAYS to make it legal and above board.

So you're saying that we should allow Adidas to throw money at these kids all they want? Goodbye college basketball then.
 

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Why? Because of a bias against KU? There is no proof he knew anything and the guardian and de Sousa have turned over all bank records. Think if this was an ISU player. NCAA is trying to look tough but is totally wrong as usual to punish this kid.

The kids know something is up idk how you think they don’t. All of a sudden uncle John is a huge Kansas fan and I should go there hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
 
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