DeSousa Out This year and next

CYphyllis

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Still, Long said the NCAA would consider De Sousa's reinstatement only under two conditions: The school had to declare him ineligible, which it did Jan. 13, and Kansas had to identify Gassnola as an agent or booster of its program "only as a hypothetical for the purposes of reinstatement."

"We disagreed on Gassnola's role in all of it," Long said.

I guess if you've been cheating as long as Kansas has the idea of honesty is simply a foreign concept, even if that honesty would immensely help one of your own athletes. Usually I'm fully against the NCAA, but this is situation where I can't help but see the KU administration as nothing but self serving cowards.
 

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Ku and their boosters have been living the lie for decades, dating to Larry Brown. When you live it long enough, you believe it. Their reaction is one of the strangest yet most understandable in sport.
 

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Still, Long said the NCAA would consider De Sousa's reinstatement only under two conditions: The school had to declare him ineligible, which it did Jan. 13, and Kansas had to identify Gassnola as an agent or booster of its program "only as a hypothetical for the purposes of reinstatement."

"We disagreed on Gassnola's role in all of it," Long said.

I guess if you've been cheating as long as Kansas has the idea of honesty is simply a foreign concept, even if that honesty would immensely help one of your own athletes. Usually I'm fully against the NCAA, but this is situation where I can't help but see the KU administration as nothing but self serving cowards.
Gassnola is neither an agent nor a KU booster. It is the NCAA who is being dishonest in this particular situation. they forced KU into that and then used it to axe their player. Ridiculous.
 

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Ku and their boosters have been living the lie for decades, dating to Larry Brown. When you live it long enough, you believe it. Their reaction is one of the strangest yet most understandable in sport.
So you think a 2 full season ban is reasonable for the guardian receiving $2,500 unbeknownst to the player? OK, sure.
 

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The best thing about the entire situation is the spotlight it shines on the arrogance of KU basketball. @CYphyllis nails it in that they have lived this way for so long, they can't see reality from where they live.

I don't care and it won't matter what really happens to them with this player, they'll work the system to get some more.

But, couple this with them getting dethroned from conference title and the fact that talent level between them and the rest of the league is gone and I am quite hopeful Boohoks are in for some disappointing years.
 

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So you think a 2 full season ban is reasonable for the guardian receiving $2,500 unbeknownst to the player? OK, sure.
The agreed upon amount was 10x that, but feel free to keep falsely diminishing the financial arrangement.

Also, we had a player lose their eligibility for a season because someone else on his team took money. You won't get any sympathy from us here.
 

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So you think a 2 full season ban is reasonable for the guardian receiving $2,500 unbeknownst to the player? OK, sure.

Do you think it is reasonable for a KU assistant to authorize payment of the $2.5K to the guardian in order to steer DeSousa to KU? Or is it reasonable for KU to have DeSousa suffer from the ineligibility when they could have admitted to authorizing the payment and have DeSousa play some place else without penalty?
 

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So you think a 2 full season ban is reasonable for the guardian receiving $2,500 unbeknownst to the player? OK, sure.
I’d be OK with the NCAA allowing DeSousa et al. to transfer and use the sit out year as his suspension. The school a player/associate received $ for him to attend should never get to play him but should still have to count his scholarship.
 

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The agreed upon amount was 10x that, but feel free to keep falsely diminishing the financial arrangement.

Also, we had a player lose their eligibility for a season because someone else on his team took money. You won't get any sympathy from us here.
One person said that was the case. Another person said it wasn't true. That's the grand total of proof of that "violation". So now we're back to punishing people based on speculation of violations, which is a very slippery slope.

Would you have a problem with me sending an email to the NCAA and saying "I had an agreement in place with Lindell Wigginton to give him $20k to go to ISU" and the NCAA banning him based on my statement regardless if there was any actual evidence to support it other than my statement? If that's how the NCAA is gonna roll then things are going to get really crazy in the next few years.

For all I know, the "agreed" upon amount was just what he told his boss a la Michael Cohen/Trump and he actually just pocketed the money or spent that $20k on some fun times on the road. These runners for the shoe companies are scamming everyone. The guardian says it is total BS and there doesn't appear to be actual proof that it happened outside of Gassnola's claims in court. But who knows. The NCAA is trying to strong arm DeSousa out of the sport so they don't have to deal with it any more. And it will probably work unless KU goes nuclear on them.
 
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I’d be OK with the NCAA allowing DeSousa et al. to transfer and use the sit out year as his suspension. The school a player/associate received $ for him to attend should never get to play him but should still have to count his scholarship.
Again, if your goal is "I hate KU, screw them" then that works but as an actual precedent to set that would be applied to all schools, it's ridiculous.
 
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Again, if your goal is "I hate KU, screw them" then that works but as an actual precedent to set that would be applied to all schools, it's ridiculous.
You are pathetic. Same mentality as the Baylor administration.
 

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So you think a 2 full season ban is reasonable for the guardian receiving $2,500 unbeknownst to the player? OK, sure.
This is just stupid. The amount isn't $2500 and you look like an idiot by continuing to put it out there. Unless you are trying to claim that he was going to go to Maryland for the $0 that a booster gave him. Adidas had to get him (or his guardian, which is the same under NCAA rules) out from under the cash that he received from Maryland's booster, which has been stated to be $20K. Maybe it's $10K, maybe it's $30K but it sure isn't $0 which is the only way your ignorant $2500 statement makes any sense. KU fans have rationalized this to the point where they can't even see how stupid their arguments are to anyone that is not one of them.