Hoiberg will attend the Baylor game (AS A FAN!)

[INCyclone]

Fred when he sees Hilton has lost its luster!

 

[FinalFourCy]

Again you ignore the era after the big 3 left. They were bad for a while. Ainge is not considered an upper echelon gm.

Amazing you continue to misrepresent simple facts. I guess pop is not as ready for his coaching lessons you were going to provide for him.

Lol.
I sympathize that the trauma of the 80’s have made you ISU’s Don Quixote, but you may be wearing your armor a little tight, my friend.

 

[cyfan92]

Ejim and Hoiberg are the foundation of the resurgence. Niang doesn't matter nearly as much without Melvin setting the stage, and in Niang's accounts, setting Niang straight in practice following a nice headlock takedown of the freshman.

I don't want to come off as bashing Melvin, because he is such a great ambassador to ISU. But Niang and Fred led the resurgence of this program. Ejim wasn't ever the best player on his own team. However, Niang was 3 out of his 4 years.

 

[Cyclonepride]

I don't want to come off as bashing Melvin, because he is such a great ambassador to ISU. But Niang and Fred led the resurgence of this program. Ejim wasn't ever the best player on his own team. However, Niang was 3 out of his 4 years.

He wasn't the best player on his own team when he won Big 12 player of the year?

 

[nfrine]

Don't worry about Fred. He is not coming back. He doesn't like the new lights in Hilton.

 

[cyfan92]

He wasn't the best player on his own team when he won Big 12 player of the year?

I'd rank DeAndre Kane higher. Again, I didn't want to bash Ejim but his 48/18 game against TCU, a team who never won a conference game put him on the map

 

[FinalFourCy]

I don't want to come off as bashing Melvin, because he is such a great ambassador to ISU. But Niang and Fred led the resurgence of this program. Ejim wasn't ever the best player on his own team. However, Niang was 3 out of his 4 years.

How are we defining best player?

 

[cyfan92]

How are we defining best player?

Just one man's opinion and this

http://barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Iowa+St.&year=2014

 

[cyfanatic13]

I loved Ejim. Absolutely loved him. But you're kidding yourself if you're taking him over Kane/Niang that year. Didn't Hoiberg say after the UNC game that half his plays were for Kane and half were for Niang (and had to get ride of those plays)?

 

[CycloneErik]

He wasn't the best player on his own team when he won Big 12 player of the year?

Why do we even have to ask this question?

It's simple, people. Put Melvin up there, Georges, too, and get Monte there. It ain't difficult.

 

[SolarGarlic]

Ejim and Hoiberg are the foundation of the resurgence. Niang doesn't matter nearly as much without Melvin setting the stage, and in Niang's accounts, setting Niang straight in practice following a nice headlock takedown of the freshman.

Ejim was there for the beginning of the resurgence, but no player is as synonymous with Hoiball and Hoiberg's era than Georges Niang. It's not close.

Niang is the last guy that needed a stage set for him.

 

[CycloneErik]

Ejim was there for the beginning of the resurgence, but no player is as synonymous with Hoiball and Hoiberg's era than Georges Niang. It's not close.

You're free to be wrong. It's OK.

 

[SolarGarlic]

You're free to be wrong. It's OK.

I don't care enough to do a poll, but Niang is Hoiball is Niang, and the majority of the fanbase would agree.

 

[CycloneErik]

I don't care enough to do a poll, but Niang is Hoiball is Niang, and the majority of the fanbase would agree.

So you know you're wrong. That's another good step.

 

[EarthIsMan]

JFC, first it is a Prohm vs. Hoiberg pissing match and now it is arguing Ejim's importance?

You could possibly argue Ejim was not the best player, but he was critical part of ISU MBB's resurgence and establishing a culture.

Maybe polemics is the just preferred rhetorical technique today on CF? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[FinalFourCy]

Just one man's opinion and this

http://barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Iowa+St.&year=2014

I could be missing it, but that doesn’t support Georges being the best player in 3 out of 4 seasons.

 

[ClonesTwenty1]

This thread got way off track lol

 

[Cyclones_R_GR8]

Never change CF, never change.

 

[CycloneErik]

This thread got way off track lol

We should probably sticky this and post it for every new visitor so they know what happens here.

 

[flycy]

Anecdotally, the newer fans don't value Fred like the old guard. He was my favorite player (and everyone else's at that time) growing up, and I'll always think of him first as "The Mayor" on those Orr/Floyd teams. I don't think anyone hates him, but some fans think of him as the coach that left ISU for the NBA.


Over/under on ESPN camera shots of Fred during the game? It's going to be obnoxious.

Speak for yourself, Julius was my favorite, but that Freddy guy was OK too.