Where would you rank Prohm far as big 12 coaches go.

[CYDJ]

Lol, you and @JP4CY continue your flirting, I've got better things to do than worry about this team who is completely disinterested in competing anymore. I'm out.

Please mean it this time. This would be the best contribution you'd have ever made here.

 

[SCISUFAN]

It depends on what is the grading criteria. If it is recruiting I'd say top half. If it is about a team being prepared going into a game (short of today) I'd say top half. If it is about caring for his team I'd say top 3. If it is about being a good man then probably the top. However, if it is about making changes, in game adjustments, and just about in-game coach...he's last.

 

[CySmurf]

Where would you have rated him Jereseib when Prohm was 18-5?
Or back when he coached the team to a Big12 tourney title. If you say 8th or lower, you're a freaking liar!

 

[Final42b]

I wouldn’t say he’s the worst but he’s definitely bottom 3

 

[mb7299]

I really like the Matt Painter comparison, it took him what 5 years to get things truly going not only recruiting wise but coaching wise. Once he gets the x and o's, strategy stuff ironed out I feel we have a top 3-4 coach for the conference. All the other pieces are there.

 

[cycloneML]

One of the sites authors wrote 2 weeks ago about how this stretch was the most important of prohms career. How about a follow up article?

 

[SWCy13]

I think Prohm has a really good eye for talent and plays the CEO role for the program well, but is a below average in-game coach at this point.

He definitely struggles with adjustments - we were still doubling the post deep in the second half after they had hit 14 3s and hadn’t hurt us on a post touch all day.

 

[rochclone]

BS!! Texas has 2 more guaranteed losses unless you think they are winning at Tech and winning the Big 12 tourney.

16 losses for an at large team when teams like Murray St or Belmont will be sitting home would be the biggest joke in tourney history.

Prepare yourself because Texas is going to be a #9 seed.

 

[8bitnes]

This. He makes zero adjustments in game. I’ve said many times. I’m not on team ‘CSP is bad at coaching’. I’m on team ‘CSP doesn’t coach’.

Does that make him Wayne Morgan with discipline?

 

[Cyinthenorth]

Hard to compare him to a lot of big 12 guys due to sample size. Other guys have been there longer, had more opportunities to accomplish more things etc. It would be more accurate to compare him to say, Bruce Weber in year 4 at KSU, or drew in year 4 at Baylor. I think for sure the only one I'd say he is worse than is self, who will be in the HOF soon.

 

[Dingus]

I’m surprised anyone feels they can rank where Boynton is, unless you watch a whole lot more Osu bb than I do.

 

[GTO]

Last 4 years Big12 Conference Records:

Kansas (Self) 55-15
Baylor (Drew) 40-30
West Virginia (Huggins) 39-31
Texas Tech 38-32 (Beard 29-23)
Kansas State (Weber) 35-35
Iowa State (Prohm) 35-35
Texas (Smart) 31-39
Oklahoma (Kruger) 31-39
TCU 26-44 (Dixon 23-29)
Oklahoma State 23-47 (Boynton 11-23)

 

[FinalFourCy]

It’s a conference with a lot of good coaches. Prohm is less experienced than most.

It’s mostly about the jimmy and the joes, and Prohm did a very good job putting a good team together this year.

 

[GTO]

Based on the numbers I pulled, he's basically tied for 5th in conference record. Those other coaches have as many, if not more, bone-headed losses. Many times with even superior talent. We just don't notice as much when it does not happen to our team.

/thread

 

[isu83]

I'm not a hater, I'm just sick and tired of watching this coaching staff refuse to coach.

Really? Refuse to coach?

 

[JP4CY]

Last 4 years Big12 Conference Records:

Kansas (Self) 55-15
Baylor (Drew) 40-30
West Virginia (Huggins) 39-31
Texas Tech 38-32 (Beard 29-23)
Kansas State (Weber) 35-35
Iowa State (Prohm) 35-35
Texas (Smart) 31-39
Oklahoma (Kruger) 31-39
TCU 26-44 (Dixon 23-29)
Oklahoma State 23-47 (Boynton 11-23)

A lot of people forget Weber's seat was slightly warming last year.

 

[Cat Stevens]

He is now 35-35 in Big 12 regular season play over these last four seasons.

Right now I would peg him between six, seventh or eighth whether or not you think Kruger has lost his fastball. Dixon is tough comparison because his season results are definitely behind Prohm but is 5-1 head- -to-head against him. He is most definitely is ahead of Smart, today's result notwithstanding, and Boynton.

So maybe split the difference and put him seventh.

Right now it seems like if the game plan works out his teams look great but if things get junked up or they are out executing his teams he gets lost in the fog of war and can't make the necessary adjustments or they just come plain too late a la the Purdue NCAA game.

Hmmm. joined in 2014. 5 posts in that time.

Seems legit

 

[KnappShack]

Last 4 years Big12 Conference Records:

Kansas (Self) 55-15
Baylor (Drew) 40-30
West Virginia (Huggins) 39-31
Texas Tech 38-32 (Beard 29-23)
Kansas State (Weber) 35-35
Iowa State (Prohm) 35-35
Texas (Smart) 31-39
Oklahoma (Kruger) 31-39
TCU 26-44 (Dixon 23-29)
Oklahoma State 23-47 (Boynton 11-23)

"You are what your record says you are"

-Bill Parcells

 

[CyCloned]

He's fine. This league has so many good coaches, it's really hard to rank them.

I would say 6th or 7th, but as you said, there are a lot of good and great coaches in the Big 12. We like to make fun of Drew and Weber, but the results are there. Self might be the best coach in the country. Dixon was a great find, and Kruger has done so well at so many places it is hard to discount him. Huggins, I never liked as a coach, but he has always had teams that would terrorize teams into mistakes without ever getting into foul trouble, so I guess that is coaching.

Prohm had a very young team this year, and it is showing now. Other teams have seen all the starters and figured out which way they like to go, where they take shots, etc. Shayok has all but disappeared for the last couple weeks. Young guys rarely come into a program with the level of conditioning needed to play major minutes for a whole season. Wigginton was hurt, Babs is always hurt, Lard is just not a guy you are going to be able to count on for consistent play. The loss of Young in the post for defense and rebounding is something we don't think about a lot, but he could have made a difference is several games when Jacobson was being abused and Lard was just fouling.

 

[FerShizzle]

No, you and @FerShizzle are bigtime haters who have nothing to add here. You guys just come to bash CSP after losses and have nothing positive to say ever. Fact.