NFL - PI now challengable

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Till this nonsense came out I hadn't seen the roughing the passer call on Tom Brady during the Chief's playoff game.


Holy hell, football is so ******.
 

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at least they aren’t giving coaches anymore challenges. Going to be a lot of red flags thrown. I imagine they will win a lot of no calls and get it changed to PI.
 
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I don't care what the NFL says, PI is always 3.14159265359.... and it IS NOT challengable.
 

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at least they aren’t giving coaches anymore challenges. Going to be a lot of red flags thrown. I imagine they will win a lot of no calls and get it changed to PI.

We'll see. I want to see the rule in action before we declare football dead. I think/hope most coaches will be smart enough to only challenge the really obvious stuff; at least that appears to be the spirit of the rule.

The key is the limited number of challenges a coach gets. There are enough close plays in a game that you have to be smart about where and when to use them. If you throw a challenge flag on an iffy PI call in the first quarter then you might find yourself without a challenge later on in the game when a call is obviously blown on the field.
 

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The number of challenges available to coaches doesn't change. They still only get two, with a third if they win the first two. So I'm not really getting the longer game complaints. It's not like coaches will be able to throw a challenge flag just to fish for a PI call.

I do think they might have been better off trying this out in the preseason only just to get a feel for it, but I don't think it's necessarily a bad rule change. We'll find out.
I disagree only because its a judgement call. There will be no end to this, the amount of challenges hasn't changed but we might as well not have officials anymore at this point with the additional challenge rules. It's gotten out of hand and the officials will now have knee jerk reactions too just like they did when you weren't allowed to fall with your weight on the QB.
 

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I disagree only because its a judgement call. There will be no end to this, the amount of challenges hasn't changed but we might as well not have officials anymore at this point with the additional challenge rules. It's gotten out of hand and the officials will now have knee jerk reactions too just like they did when you weren't allowed to fall with your weight on the QB.

The rule hasn't changed....the ability to challenge the call has. What knee jerk reactions would they have?
 

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I can see most hail mary attempts at end of half/game situations challenged with this rule. There is almost always PI on those.
Didn't even think of that, I would challenge at the end of every half then because you can usually get it for as much grabbing and pushing with this new challenge. So dumb
 

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Didn't even think of that, I would challenge at the end of every half then because you can usually get it for as much grabbing and pushing with this new challenge. So dumb

You shouldn't have thought of it, because you can't challenge it.
 

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The rule hasn't changed....the ability to challenge the call has. What knee jerk reactions would they have?
Calling more PIs during the game ....I was just thinking they will call more and make it impossible to cover someone now. I need to read the full rule still but that was my initial thought on it.
 

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I disagree only because its a judgement call. There will be no end to this, the amount of challenges hasn't changed but we might as well not have officials anymore at this point with the additional challenge rules. It's gotten out of hand and the officials will now have knee jerk reactions too just like they did when you weren't allowed to fall with your weight on the QB.

It depends on the refs. The spirit of the rule is to eliminate glaringly bad calls or non-calls on the field (like in the NFC championship, where video offered clear evidence of PI). If the refs interpret this rule change correctly, they won't reverse anything unless it's very obvious on replay that the initial call was blown.
 

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Oh man, watching potential PI calls from 8 different angles slowed down frame by frame is going to be so exciting!
 
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Oh man, watching potential PI calls from 8 different angles slowed down frame by frame is going to be so exciting!

It'll also be short lived if refs only overturn obvious stuff and coaches stop burning red flags on stupid challenges. It's a new rule. Everyone will adjust and the game will be fine. Remember last offseason when we all lost our minds about the new leading with the helmet rule? How much did that end up affecting the game watching experience?
 

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Maybe it'd be fine if the way they did their replays weren't so awful. Why do we need to spend 5 minutes and have the ref run off the field to view a monitor? Have one or two guys in the booth watching on TV, make it so they can instantly access replays and radio down, should take 30 seconds.
 

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This is going to make the last 2 minutes of the game even longer than it already is. A team that needs to drive the length of the field to win are going to be passing every down, theoretically every pass could be reviewed by the booth for PI, and honestly every pass defended looks like PI in slow motion. The call will still be all judgement, whether its the on field refs or the review booth. This isn't going to end well.
 

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Don't mind the rule but there is going to be a giant issue with stopping the clock to review in the last two minutes where a team doesn't have to save or use timeouts. Coach's are going to flip out with the clock is stopped allowing the offence more time.