Good MBB article from Travis Hines

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One thing I really like about Prohm is his candidness and honesty. He wouldnt have had to mention how he apologized to LW but he did. He is seemingly one of the most humble guys I have seen in his position.
I think he is honest with his guys too. The problem is some people don’t like honesty.
 

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Put me in coach, I'm ready to go! I'd run through a wall for Coach Prohm, what a great ambassador for our school.

I, too, thought that last paragraph, where he explains why he wants to be here is so Prohm. And who could speak about the Hoiberg situation past and present with more class than he does?
 

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That dude is a scumbag



One thing I really like about Prohm is his candidness and honesty. He wouldnt have had to mention how he apologized to LW but he did. He is seemingly one of the most humble guys I have seen in his position.
I think he is honest with his guys too. The problem is some people don’t like honesty.

You can't handle the truth...

Prohm comes off as the nicest guy ever.

Do we not like him now? Serious question, I thought he was pretty well-liked when he left.

I always saw him as a necessary evil, but one who could backfire at some point.

Still might at Nebraska if he gets photographed going into a meeting with a player with a bag with some cartoony dollar signs drawn on the side of it.
 
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Huh. I thought we were still boycotting Hines after the Hoiberg/sleeping in hotel lobbies article from 4 years ago. Guess I'm behind the times.
 

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Do we not like him now? Serious question, I thought he was pretty well-liked when he left.

He's a direct competitor so I'm not sending him a big box of candy on Valentines Day. He's likely to trash us using his time in Ames to reveal "insider" dirt on why ISU sucks. Fred would look like an insincere hypocrite if he rips us himself so he can have his made man do.
 
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He's a direct competitor so I'm not sending him a big box of candy on Valentines Day. He's likely to trash us using his time in Ames to reveal "insider" dirt on why ISU sucks. Fred would look like an insincere hypocrite if he rips us himself so he can have his made man do.

I didn't mean that we weren't competing. Just that people make it sound like MA was dirty or left on bad terms or something, and I don't recall that. And I don't follow every twist and turn of recruiting so it's entirely possible I missed something.

That said, if Fred and staff go negative with their "insider" knowledge of us...we know them pretty well too. So isn't that basically a wash?
 

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I didn't mean that we weren't competing. Just that people make it sound like MA was dirty or left on bad terms or something, and I don't recall that. And I don't follow every twist and turn of recruiting so it's entirely possible I missed something.

That said, if Fred and staff go negative with their "insider" knowledge of us...we know them pretty well too. So isn't that basically a wash?

I know a couple people and they say he is dirty as they come. When the FBI stuff started to come out I was relieved that Monte was the only one brought up in a trivial thing.
 

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Do we not like him now? Serious question, I thought he was pretty well-liked when he left.
I would like to know as well. If he's such a bad dude why does Fred love him so much? Is Fred a bad dude? I'm far from a Freddy worshiper but he's a good human...I think.
 

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I would like to know as well. If he's such a bad dude why does Fred love him so much? Is Fred a bad dude? I'm far from a Freddy worshiper but he's a good human...I think.

He is a dirty recruiter, people like him sorry if it was misunderstood.
 

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I just finished reading both pieces and was really struck by how Prohm seems to have felt he shortchanged Wigginton and let him down this season. He mentioned apologizing to him numerous times.

It just seems weird to me...like, if you have to keep apologizing for not starting him, just start him. Sure, chemistry is a concern but there were significant portions of the season where the chemistry wasn't good anyway. Not sure what you lose by giving it a try instead of beating yourself up over it all season and potentially alienating your (arguably) best player.

But then, I thought Prohm's decisions on playing time were weird all season. The will-he-or-won't-he-play question with Lard most games, Conditt, THT arguably being given way too much latitude even when he struggled. None probably huge issues individually, but I'd like a little less drama on that front next season.

The thing is that if you trade out THT for Lindell we become tiny on the defensive end. Our defense showed signs this year and we ended better than we have been recently in kenpom.
 

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I just finished reading both pieces and was really struck by how Prohm seems to have felt he shortchanged Wigginton and let him down this season. He mentioned apologizing to him numerous times.

It just seems weird to me...like, if you have to keep apologizing for not starting him, just start him. Sure, chemistry is a concern but there were significant portions of the season where the chemistry wasn't good anyway. Not sure what you lose by giving it a try instead of beating yourself up over it all season and potentially alienating your (arguably) best player.
That’s more coach’s speak and gamesmanship than an admittance or being apologetic imo. Nothing good comes from Prohm publicly saying Wigginton never developed the consistency needed on both ends to justify starting over Shayok or Haliburton.

He wasn’t our best player. He had the potential to be but wasn’t.
 

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That’s more coach’s speak and gamesmanship than an admittance or being apologetic imo. Nothing good comes from Prohm publicly saying Wigginton never developed the consistency needed on both ends to justify starting over Shayok or Haliburton.

He wasn’t our best player. He had the potential to be but wasn’t.

He literally said "I apologized" to Lindell at least four times in that piece. He said he should have started him at some point, that he deserved it. Seems pretty explicit to me.

And I should have been more clear. Lindell was undoubtedly considered our best player coming into the season. I agree it did not turn out that way.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with Prohm's decision to bring him off the bench. I just didn't realize he struggled with it so much, especially given we had enough stretches of bad games where a chance to shake things up might have been a good thing.
 
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