Oliver Martin Enters Transfer Portal

[Thinker]

It will all boil down to if Iowa has mismatches at TE. If the TE's draw double teams then yeah I would hope that the WR productivity would either stay the same or increase. In other words they way you are looking at things is simply not that cut and dry.

As is the way ISU is looking at things. Under Campbell, ISU has had 2 1000 yard wrs. and neither one of those guys is on the roster now. It is kind of like when Iowa had DJK, and McNutt. when those guys where gone, it was hard to find that production.

The guys coming back are not at Lazard and Butler level for ISU and will create more issues with the offense because no one has to shade to a certain side of the field with those guys gone. Unless someone steps up in a huge way.

 

[CyTwins]

In his first year with a more expanded role ( in place of Matt Vandeberg) he showed great improvement. and we lose the top 3 options in front of him, so yes he can achieve that.

Go look at who Easley replaced..... McCarron who had pretty much the same yearly stats as Easley.

Go look at who Riley replaced..... and so on and so on

Then you will see when Iowa had talented WRs, all of a sudden their production popped up with good numbers, and with O'Keefe back and no Davis, we have that same type of philosophy to get it to the talented WRs and stretch the field.

Now will Stanley be able to do that consistently? I hope so, but he has his best games against OSU and ISU for some reason.

From what I've seen of Smith he seems to be a very poor route runner and struggles to create separation. Vandenberg, Easley and McCarron were not that

 

[Thinker]

From what I've seen of Smith he seems to be a very poor route runner and struggles to create separation. Vandenberg, Easley and McCarron were not that

It does not mean he will not reach 50 500 and 5. That is clearly attainable.

In fact, Iowa typically has about 2 guys with that production at WR each year. It was when Greg Davis came in that it changed a little. Now it is getting back to that type of game.

 

[jsb]

I wish we had any sports writer that writes as gushingly about us as chad writes about Iowa. His article on this transfer is like a ******* love letter.

 

[Thinker]

If Martin is allowed to play, I can see him being able to put up those type of numbers. Maybe not 50 catches but closer to 40. He is easily an Hinkel, McCarron, Vandeberg, Easley, Martin-Manley type of WR.

 

[CyTwins]

It does not mean he will not reach 50 500 and 5. That is clearly attainable.

In fact, Iowa typically has about 2 guys with that production at WR each year. It was when Greg Davis came in that it changed a little. Now it is getting back to that type of game.

I would be absolutely shocked if he had 50 500 and 5, especially with KF's history of developing at the position

 

[Thinker]

I would be absolutely shocked if he had 50 500 and 5, especially with KF's history of developing at the position

More often then not, he has that type of WR. Now, ISU has no one on their roster that has had that under Campbell because the 2 that have are gone.

 

[Thinker]

I would be absolutely shocked if he had 50 500 and 5, especially with KF's history of developing at the position

22 catches, 139 yards and 3 more TDs during the year is all he needs........
Without Fant, Easley, and Hock who had nearly 1800 yards, nearly 140 catches, and 18 TDs..... It is attainable, and easy to see how, not sure what your angle is here.

 

[ribsnwhiskey]

More often then not, he has that type of WR. Now, ISU has no one on their roster that has had that under Campbell because the 2 that have are gone.

Still here, huh troll?

 

[CyTwins]

More often then not, he has that type of WR. Now, ISU has no one on their roster that has had that under Campbell because the 2 that have are gone.

Yeah but it's usually a good route runner who can create separation not a bad one like Smith

 

[ribsnwhiskey]

More often then not, he has that type of WR. Now, ISU has no one on their roster that has had that under Campbell because the 2 that have are gone.

Deshaunte Jones had 500+ and 6 TD his freshman season. Dumb ****.

 

[Thinker]

Deshaunte Jones had 500+ and 6 TD his freshman season. Dumb ****.

So why has he regressed in his 3 years then

 

[Thinker]

Yeah but it's usually a good route runner who can create separation not a bad one like Smith

McNutt did it, DJK did it, Keenan Davis did it..... Tevaun Smith even had his moments, It is not like Iowa Wrs can not attain that.

 

[Thinker]

Yeah but it's usually a good route runner who can create separation not a bad one like Smith

Who has reported he is a bad route runner? I have seen otherwise.

 

[CyTwins]

McNutt did it, DJK did it, Keenan Davis did it..... Tevaun Smith even had his moments, It is not like Iowa Wrs can not attain that.

Those 3 were good route runners and could create separation though so not sure the comparison

 

[CyTwins]

Who has reported he is a bad route runner? I have seen otherwise.

Me. From the limited stuff I saw of him he struggled in running routes and creating separation which is probably why he's struggled to produce so far

 

[Thinker]

Me. From the limited stuff I saw of him he struggled in running routes and creating separation which is probably why he's struggled to produce so far

He was the 4/5 option for 2 years.... Entering into his 3rd year, after improving the first 2, being the number 1-3 option....... And I feel like he runs great routes. separation? I think that falls on Stanley to a degree because he was usually the 4/5 option last year and put up decent numbers for that spot. After all, Milton was the 4 option and put up good numbers in his 2nd year, but his first year he was not good enough to do anything and red shirted, probably because he could not run good routes from the limited action I saw of him..... I can play that game too.

 

[CyTwins]

After all, Milton was the 4 option and put up good numbers in his 2nd year, but his first year he was not good enough to do anything and red shirted, probably because he could not run good routes from the limited action I saw of him.

Lol what? Milton's strengths are route running and creating separation

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

So why has he regressed in his 3 years then

Because we had two of the best receivers to ever play at ISU in front of him? How hard is that to understand?

 

[Thinker]

Lol what? Milton's strengths are route running and creating separation

He is also plays Bulters spot if I read that correctly and is 5-11. I thought you said ISU does not see that as their main WR mold when considering Oliver Martin argument.