If I recall correctly, one of the reasons we did not have a full meltdown at Three Mile Island is that we had those thick concrete containment units. We had our own Dyatlovs there for sure that made the problem worse.
Chernobyl
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Fantastic. Brutal, riveting and impactful. Everything and more I was hoping from it.
#4 may be top 3 all time TV episodes for me. Could be recency bias but I don't think so. I couldn't and still can't get the show out of my head and the events in general throughout watching it.
The whole story arc was done brilliantly. For those with no or little knowledge of the events that transpired leading up to the explosion, the effort to cover up, and the impending trial/deaths, it was perfect. Start with the death by suicide, hearing only snippets of the tapes he left for (unknown) and having that event in the back of your mind while watching everything play out, I'd have to think people assumed Legasov would lie again and his tapes were his finally telling the truth.
The way they touched on the meeting 12 hours prior to the safety test where it was obvious none of the men in charge cared about anything more than this being a platform to their promotion.
The subordinates throughout the entire series going unheard while bringing up obvious red flags to their higher ups, or giving up on trying to show they were wrong because the person who was supposed to have the most control said it was okay.
The Boris storyline, development and his respect for the science by the end of the show.
The scene where Bacho is talking to Pavel about their job, and then the following scene where he talks him through his first kill. "The Happiness of All Mankind" being the only line from their tent-mate.
I could go on for a long time, so I'll stop at that for now haha
#4 may be top 3 all time TV episodes for me. Could be recency bias but I don't think so. I couldn't and still can't get the show out of my head and the events in general throughout watching it.
The whole story arc was done brilliantly. For those with no or little knowledge of the events that transpired leading up to the explosion, the effort to cover up, and the impending trial/deaths, it was perfect. Start with the death by suicide, hearing only snippets of the tapes he left for (unknown) and having that event in the back of your mind while watching everything play out, I'd have to think people assumed Legasov would lie again and his tapes were his finally telling the truth.
The way they touched on the meeting 12 hours prior to the safety test where it was obvious none of the men in charge cared about anything more than this being a platform to their promotion.
The subordinates throughout the entire series going unheard while bringing up obvious red flags to their higher ups, or giving up on trying to show they were wrong because the person who was supposed to have the most control said it was okay.
The Boris storyline, development and his respect for the science by the end of the show.
The scene where Bacho is talking to Pavel about their job, and then the following scene where he talks him through his first kill. "The Happiness of All Mankind" being the only line from their tent-mate.
I could go on for a long time, so I'll stop at that for now haha
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I'd think China and N. Korea would have a pretty good shot at achieving both of those (the failure and then the throwing humans at the problem).
A 'Western' solution to such an accident would be interesting. The closest we've had is Fukushima. Still very different scales.
Fukushima was worse. They still don't know where the cores melted.
Huh? The amount of radioactivity released at Fukushima was about 10-20% of what was released at Chernobyl.
The location alone makes it much worse. I guess the good thing is that the Fuku radiation was diluted by a giant ocean. On the downside the entire ocean now has some radiation from the Fukushima disaster. And I haven't watched this film series yet but just extend the government moves by the USSR and the Japanese or the west will react the same way.
My wife said something to the effect of the "that's the USSR" when they had the meeting about the water tanks and the potential disaster that would create. I quickly told her, all governments would be the same, unless you have individuals willing to risk their lives and do the right thing, the government is always going to fail in these types of time-sensitive situations. Too big, no one to make a decision. It isn't that they can't get the right answer, it is they can't get through the red tape fast enough. Just look at the US response to Katrina.
Japan had so many water tanks and just ended up dumping them into the Ocean. Governments tend to run on the same thinking therefore you will see similar results. And once you get a disaster of this scale there isn't much you can do after the fact.
Again, huh? The plant design decreased the amount of radioactivity released by an order of magnitude and it's still somehow worse? Because the Chernobyl radiation magically didn't enter the hydrosphere because it's further away from an ocean (never mind the giant atmospheric plume that had to settle somewhere)?
I'd also argue that the evidence regarding any negative health impacts of small amounts of radiation exposure is pretty inconclusive, and the assumption that the linear-no-threshold model is correct is not supported by (the admittedly small amount of) evidence, it's merely used because it's conservative.
Do you want giant mutant monsters?
Because that is how you get giant mutant monsters!
I have actually been reading up on that. I was surprised to see it was classified the same as Chernobyl.
I watched a 3 hour documentary on this one time. It's crazy. At one point there was a huge plot to kidnap his body (Presidential dead guy nap) and hold it for ransom. They finally just had to build a fortress so nobody could steal him.
I see a lot of similarities between Jon Stewart's apparent cause for 911 responders like firemen and the Chernobyl fireman.
Yeah. It's like they build a "Jerry World" around it
