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mj4cy

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The biggest mistake Tommy made was that trying to flip the vote to keep Jess. It's simply not happening (though it should....Cliff beats anyone in final 2 based on votes). What he should be doing instead is working on Nicole and Cliff to join him and Christie as Jackson/Holly are the biggest targets.

However, the majority of the rest of the comps will be more memory type or crapshoot comps. Double Eviction comps are always pretty quick thus sometimes its carnival games-esque.

This season started as a dud but has really come on strong in that ANY of the final 6 (assuming Jess is gone) can win. Last year we pretty much knew that Tyler was going to be taken to the end and will win unless there is a bitter jury. End of story.
 

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Annnnnnnd I'm officially done watching. I swear to God people get more stupid when they're in the house. I get it that your cooped up and your mind is mush...to an extent. But what happened tonight is basically handing Michie and Holly the win. It floors me how people are seriously so ******* stupid.
 

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I have to admit Miche is playing a solid game. People don’t like him but you could tell early on that he established dominance. Holly is over shadowed but she is playing a great game also
 
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Annnnnnnd I'm officially done watching. I swear to God people get more stupid when they're in the house. I get it that your cooped up and your mind is mush...to an extent. But what happened tonight is basically handing Michie and Holly the win. It floors me how people are seriously so ******* stupid.


I disagree with a lot of what you're saying so I'm curious your reasoning. If you've watched the live feeds, Jackson and Holly don't really practice their days and aren't that great with mental comps. Holly has two HOH wins. The first was because she's ridden horses and knew how to hang longer than others...not a mental comp tho. The second was complete absolute BS luck. Jackson's HOH wins and other wins are mostly physical.

The majority of the rest of the comps are going to be more mental and some will be all about knowing what happened on what days. Nicole and Cliff study a lot. They have a better shot at beating out Jackson/Holly than they do Tommy and Christie who also practice their days and know their ****. Taking out Christie also removes Tommy's shield he's had so long. Remember, the second and third rounds of the final HOH usually have to do with mental/things that happened or said comps.

Ever notice how one by one all of Tommy's allies have gone home? (Jack/Sis/Christie), yet the whole time Jackson and Holly have been saying "We love Tommy and will not touch him". Well he has no one left so he's a huge target now.
 
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I have to admit Miche is playing a solid game. People don’t like him but you could tell early on that he established dominance. Holly is over shadowed but she is playing a great game also


I agree he's playing a better game than most people thought he was capable. However, lately I feel some of his decision making while is correct has completely wrong reasoning. For example, he feels he HAD to win the last HOH so Tommy wouldn't go after Nicole/Cliff. In actuality, Tommy had been saying all week he's going after Jackson/Holly if he wins. Jackson was too trusting in that sense and got lucky that he got HOH for his own good even though he was trying to be the matyr.

I think Holly has done pretty well, but her comp wins were somewhat lucky and while she is smart and thinks through things, its starting to come off more and more to everyone (viewers included) that Jackson is doing all the work. She'll have to be able to convey to the jury her game which I think is an uphill battle.
 

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I was happy for Nicole. She was so devastated on the last HOH when she fell short so this one was well deserved (plus she got out Christie)

Listen to alot of big brother podcasts and there was alot of people bagging on Nicole saying she hasn't done anything. When she won I wanted to say to all those haters to **** off.
 

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I get sick of hearing that stuff. I think it's a valid strategy to lay low, be trustworthy and not make yourself a target. Plus it's a good way to not make the jury pissed at you.
 
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Following the DE Jackson won hoh put up Tommy and Cliff. Prior to veto comp today Tommy outed to Jackson and Holly that he and Christie knew each other. Nicole has just won veto. Taking Cliff down and Holly will have to go up. So it's Holly vs Tommy and Cliff and Nicole have power to decide which goes to final 4.
 
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Following the DE Jackson won hoh put up Tommy and Cliff. Prior to veto comp today Tommy outed to Jackson and Holly that he and Christie knew each other. Nicole has just won veto. Taking Cliff down and Holly will have to go up. So it's Holly vs Tommy and Cliff and Nicole have power to decide which goes to final 4.

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My crazy dream scenario (because I want Cliff to win)

Nicole wins the veto
Nicole uses veto to pull Cliff off the block
Holly has to go up as replacement nominee
Cliff and Nicole are only 2 votes and evict Holly
Michie isn't eligible to compete in next HOH and will be nominee with the veto as his only chance to stay.
 
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My crazy dream scenario (because I want Cliff to win)

Nicole wins the veto
Nicole uses veto to pull Cliff off the block
Holly has to go up as replacement nominee
Cliff and Nicole are only 2 votes and evict Holly
Michie isn't eligible to compete in next HOH and will be nominee with the veto as his only chance to stay.


Yeah that was what I'm hoping for. Order of who I want to win:

Cliff
Nicole
Tommy
Jackson (he's in my pool I drafted)
Holly


To be fair, this is a better final five than most seasons. Usually there is a goat or two in there. All 5 have at least some sort of reason to claim the victory. Some like a BB16 Victoria comes to mind as a goat.
 

mj4cy

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I get sick of hearing that stuff. I think it's a valid strategy to lay low, be trustworthy and not make yourself a target. Plus it's a good way to not make the jury pissed at you.


She's playing the Paras BBCan6 game. Paras made good social connections the whole game and didn't win a thing until the end and got the last two HOHs and based on her connections with the jury, won out.

Sadly in recent BB its all about jury management because people are stupid and get bitter if they got played. A Will or Dan game would have no chance today. By laying low and being on the right side of votes, you're letting others take shots and piss off the jury. I think we would all agree it's more fun to watch a Dan season 10 or Will season 7 game, but it's just so hard to pull off.