Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)
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Current thought more and more is that this isnt true. Too much asymptomatic spreading.
Also, just a reminder to all not to put too much stock in confirmed case numbers. It’s already here and likely widespread, which will become obvious in the next 2 weeks. Still almost impossible to get tested lots of places if you don’t need to be hospitalized and aren’t a health care worker.
We just received toothless policy. If youtravel ov
Our 5 playgrounds and equipment is closed inn our town. Sidewalks and trails open.
Question to those asking for SIP or supporting non-SIP. What is/was your trigger point?
- X new cases per day?
- X new cases hospitalized per day?
- X deaths per day?
My thinking is something around X hospitalized compounded by X growth in hospitalized. (i haven't researched the numbers enough to know yet)
That is based on my assumption that we want to ensure that we don't end up with a patient that can't get to a hospital bed, ICU bed, or ventilator if they need one.
So, what is or was your trigger point?
A couple other points I'd like to know thoughts on: to date, I have presumed that:
- That the total number infected will EVENTUALLY be relatively the same whether we SIP or not
- SIP will slow the spread, but only herd immunity or a vaccine will cease the spread
- A vaccine won't be available for at least 12 months
I open to other facts or ideas so let me know if I'm off base on this. Links or evidence is highly appreciated.
- X new cases per day?
- X new cases hospitalized per day?
- X deaths per day?
My thinking is something around X hospitalized compounded by X growth in hospitalized. (i haven't researched the numbers enough to know yet)
That is based on my assumption that we want to ensure that we don't end up with a patient that can't get to a hospital bed, ICU bed, or ventilator if they need one.
So, what is or was your trigger point?
A couple other points I'd like to know thoughts on: to date, I have presumed that:
- That the total number infected will EVENTUALLY be relatively the same whether we SIP or not
- SIP will slow the spread, but only herd immunity or a vaccine will cease the spread
- A vaccine won't be available for at least 12 months
I open to other facts or ideas so let me know if I'm off base on this. Links or evidence is highly appreciated.
I'd at least like to see the Governor grant local officials the authority to issue them. The rural parts of the state may not need SIP at this point, but certain urban areas could really use this right now (looking at Linn county).
Hopefully most of the people at that horse auction were Amish. They really have a different attitude about death than we do. They aren't concerned about it, don't take much measures to prevent, and don't get that broken up over it when it happens.
I've been on scene at accidents where Amish children died, and the elders who are present kind of nonchalantly say "it was God's will" and move on with life.
I doubt they give any ***** about COVID-19, so it's hard for me to be frustrated by their behavior, or sympathetic to any widespread losses that they might see.
I've been on scene at accidents where Amish children died, and the elders who are present kind of nonchalantly say "it was God's will" and move on with life.
I doubt they give any ***** about COVID-19, so it's hard for me to be frustrated by their behavior, or sympathetic to any widespread losses that they might see.
https://littlevillagemag.com/the-me...19-decisions-revealed-and-met-with-criticism/
This article provides a little bit more information on how Reynolds and her team are conducting their data. They're essentially breaking the state down into 6 large regions. Each region is then assigned a total number based on all of those factors we have already seen. 3 regions are sitting at a 7, two are a 6, and one is a 5.
I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this, specifically how they broke down the regions and if you believe it's smart to do it that way.
Specifically answering your question about a trigger point.. I don't think we should be waiting to see worse numbers. I think it's pretty cruel to wait for more people to have to be hospitalized or die for action to happen. If this were something absolutely brand new and we didn't know what was coming, I would agree we should wait for data because we wouldn't want to overreact to something that's miniscule. That's the difference though. We are not the front lines. We are not the first state that other states are looking for guidance. We are the state that is now being ridiculed by the media because it looks like we're not taking it as seriously as we should. Dr. Fauci was absolutely astounded that we have not done more.
I'd say any rate that makes it look like the hospitals will eventually be overwhelmed.
This x100. Gov Reynolds says she wants everyone together on this but areas of Iowa are not the same. Why you wouldn't let Polk or Linn County SIP is beyond me. We have a bulk of the population and cases. Where a small rural county may have none. Treating those exactly the same is crazy IMO.
https://littlevillagemag.com/the-me...19-decisions-revealed-and-met-with-criticism/
Look at this article. She's not looking at this county by county, or city by city.
Why can none of these sites add the percentages? In parenthesis even. I can do the math but it would make them so much easier to read and compare.
The people in the town of Seymour are not worried about the Amish, they are worried about the rest of the community. I work with a gal whose daughter, home from college, works at the local Casey's, she said that hundreds of Amish stopped there before and after the sale yesterday. So if a couple people had it at the sale, and stopped at Casey's then they gave it to the workers, and it will spread through the town.
Someone should have stepped in and not allowed the sale, they checked 488 people before the sale, a lot more than 10, and if you watched the video on KTVO, these were not work animals being sold, its horses to pull their buggy's. They also sold a couple head of cattle, so they were in compliance with the law.
https://ktvo.com/news/local/horse-auction-draws-400-to-seymour-amid-covid-19-outbreak
It will be interesting to see in a week or two whether or not Wayne county starts to see cases pop up.
I'm getting word from my employer that the Fed's are trying to pressure the Nebraska and Iowa governors to issue a stay-at-home policy to follow Federal guidelines
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