That looks really cool but holy christ I don’t have that kind of cash
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So much stuff to buy lol. This thread is bad for the pocket book. I have pretty much maxxed out what I can fit in my section of the garage so no big purchases for me. When I look to move next it will be necessary that we upgrade garage size.
I haven't used a domino yet but I know someone who owns one. They are really nice from everything he says. Are they $1000 level really nice? Probably not. But festool gets away with charging what they do because their name is recognized for quality and craftsmanship.
There are a number of youtubers who have made their own out of plywood, it is actually a fairly simple machine. There are other products that help you do the same thing using a router (mostise master, a good edge guide and a plunge base) but none have the quick set up like the Domino.
Agreed. I think that Festool only makes sense if you're doing production furniture and need to get it done quickly. For the weekend woodworker, I can't see how it's worth the price.
Rockler has a product that is an order of magnitude cheaper and accomplishes the same task:
https://www.rockler.com/beadlock-pro-joinery-kit
And like you said, you could make your own system in the shop and get the job done, too.
And yes, I can't understand why anyone would pay for the Festool brand, even the pros. They have some tools like the domino that are unique enough that MAYBE you pay for because you can't really get it anywhere else. But I see people using their miter saws, oscillating sanders, etc and I don't get it. Is it high quality? Of course. Is it worth a 2x premium over any other top brand? I seriously doubt it.
A great example: Festools cordless drill kit is $300+. For a DRILL. You're telling me it drives screws that much better/faster than something less than $100? I really doubt it. I imagine all the pros (I see This Old House guys use their tools a lot) that use them get a steep marketing discount because otherwise, you'd have to be insane to pay that price for those tools.
Now that is an interesting little kit. May have to consider that.
I would say if you were a remodeling contractor then Festools dust collection makes it worth the cost and their miter saw is probably the most precise one money can buy. That might not seem like a big deal to a bunch of schmucks like this gang screwing around in their garage but if you can save time by not dealing with sawdust in somebodies house or effing up a cut installing mill work in a house that extra cost will pay for itself pretty fast.
Those Domino machines though are a different deal. I would love to get one for doing mortise and tenon joints. I love using them, but they sure take a lot of time that a domino would speed way up.
That's pretty cool. I feel like maybe priced just a tad high, but cool. I may look into that as well.
Yeah, I'm with you on the domino, if I could justify the cost. Not sure if you watch any of his videos, but The Wood Whisperer uses it quite a bit. Again, he's trying to crank out youtube videos at a decent clip, and taking hours to make the joinery for him doesn't add much value to his videos.
It would be a great tool to have to crank out some nice furniture and save lots of time on the joinery, it's just a hard cost to justify, for me.
Yeah I love watching Marcs videos. He's also got a really good book called the Hybrid Woodworker or something like that. It's one of the two best woodworking books out there I think.
With the right materials and patience, I'm sure you could make your own and accomplish the same task. Or even just making a jig with a large diameter drill bit, you could basically replicate what the domino does, but use a common drill and larger diameter dowels.
I also know there are a few videos on youtube of people making a bastardized version of the domino using more common tools.
Did you pick that up at Woodsmith or a Rockler store/online?
(Just in case people don't know, if you are a DSM Woodworking club member you get 10% at Woodsmith.)
I have found some old Stanley planes in old sheds and cleaned them up. They will last forever.
I don't actually own one. I've just seen it come up when I was looking for alternatives to the Festool domino.
Back onto the Christmas list. Instead of a new tool how about some books on the subject? Here are some I have that I really like.
The Anarchist's Tool Chest is about getting started and buying tools that useful and what order to buy them. When you're all done you'll have the tools you need to build a toolchest to store them in (but I prefer a Dutch Style chest to an English style one)
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The Woodworker: The Charles Hayward Years is a 5 volume set that blends hand tools and power tools nice with lots of detailed techniques. Whenever I start doing something I hadn't done for a while I look up how to do it again in the Hayward books. I have 4 of the 5 books.
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Hybrid Woodworking gives you some options for deciding where to go with hand tools and where to go with power tools.
The last book is a book full of workbenches. If you're doing any woodworking you need a bench and this book will give you tons of good ideas. I built a version of the Holtzapffel bench from this book.
The Anarchist's Tool Chest is about getting started and buying tools that useful and what order to buy them. When you're all done you'll have the tools you need to build a toolchest to store them in (but I prefer a Dutch Style chest to an English style one)
The Anarchist's Tool Chest: Revised Edition
“The Anarchist’s Tool Chest” paints a world where woodworking tools are at the center of an ethical life filled with creating furniture that will last for generations. You'll discover the fewer than 50 hand tools you need to get started, and step-by-step instructions to build a full-sized...
The Woodworker: The Charles Hayward Years is a 5 volume set that blends hand tools and power tools nice with lots of detailed techniques. Whenever I start doing something I hadn't done for a while I look up how to do it again in the Hayward books. I have 4 of the 5 books.
Vol. I of The Woodworker: The Charles H. Hayward Years: Tools
Download an excerpt from Vol. I here. There is little doubt that Charles H. Hayward (1898-1998) was the most important workshop writer and editor of the 20th century. Unlike any person before (and perhaps after) him, Hayward was a trained cabinetmaker and extraordinary illustrator, not to...
Vol. II of The Woodworker: The Charles H. Hayward Years: Techniques
Download an excerpt from Vol. II here. There is little doubt that Charles H. Hayward (1898-1998) was the most important workshop writer and editor of the 20th century. Unlike any person before (and perhaps after) him, Hayward was a trained cabinetmaker and extraordinary illustrator, not to...
Vol. III of The Woodworker: The Charles H. Hayward Years: Joinery
You can download an excerpt of this book via this link. The third book in our "The Woodworker: The Charles H. Hayward Years" series covers all types of woodwork joints, including how to design them, cut them and fix them when things go awry. It’s difficult to overstate the importance of the book...
Vol. IV of The Woodworker, The Charles H. Hayward Years, The Shop & Fu
Download an excerpt here. The fourth book in our series "The Woodworker: The Charles H. Hayward Years" covers three different topics. 1) The Workshop, including the design and construction of workbenches, tool chests and wall cabinets. There's also an entire section devoted to "appliances,"which...
Honest Labour: The Charles H. Hayward Years
You can download an excerpt of this book here. “Honest Labour” is a collection of essays from The Woodworker magazine while the legendary Charles H. Hayward was editor (1936-1966). This book is the fifth and final volume in our series from The Woodworker. When we started on The Woodworker...
Hybrid Woodworking gives you some options for deciding where to go with hand tools and where to go with power tools.
Hybrid Woodworking Book - The Wood Whisperer
In Hybrid Woodworking, author and Internet woodworking personality Marc Spagnuolo offers a more efficient approach that combines the strength of power-tool and hand-tool techniques. The end result: You save time and effort while producing furniture that still has that stunning handmade look.
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The last book is a book full of workbenches. If you're doing any woodworking you need a bench and this book will give you tons of good ideas. I built a version of the Holtzapffel bench from this book.
The Workbench Design Book: The Art & Philosophy of Building Better Benches: Schwarz, Christopher: 0035313651564: Books - Amazon
The Workbench Design Book: The Art & Philosophy of Building Better Benches [Schwarz, Christopher] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. The Workbench Design Book: The Art & Philosophy of Building Better Benches
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Back onto the Christmas list. Instead of a new tool how about some books on the subject? Here are some I have that I really like.
The Anarchist's Tool Chest is about getting started and buying tools that useful and what order to buy them. When you're all done you'll have the tools you need to build a toolchest to store them in (but I prefer a Dutch Style chest to an English style one)
The Anarchist's Tool Chest: Revised Edition
“The Anarchist’s Tool Chest” paints a world where woodworking tools are at the center of an ethical life filled with creating furniture that will last for generations. You'll discover the fewer than 50 hand tools you need to get started, and step-by-step instructions to build a full-sized...
That is a neat book I have not seen before. Those old timey tool chests are very cool. I wish I knew where I just saw an article online that was absolutely beautiful.
Going to buy this butcher block from the restore, stain it espresso, and seal it nice to make a desk.
Anyone, know where to get cheap drawner units like the one in this pic?
Butcher Block - Pine
Clear pine butcher block countertop1-3/4" x 25" x 96" Keywords: countertop, counter top
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Anyone, know where to get cheap drawner units like the one in this pic?
Chris Schwarz is one of my favorite authors. He does a great job and has a quirky passion for traditional techniques. While I don't love the chest he builds in that book, the rest of the book is the first thing I suggest any new woodworker buy before going crazy with tools. If I was going to build a new tool chest it would be a dutch style.
The Woodwright's Shop | Dutch Tool Chest with Christopher Schwarz | Season 33 | Episode 12
Learn to make the simple and useful Dutch tool chest with its slanted lid.
