Lighten up, Francis. We've got a ton of new players who because of COVID have been unable to build any chemistry. Veteran teams have a huge advantage this year.
Yes, it's really as simple as that.
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Lighten up, Francis. We've got a ton of new players who because of COVID have been unable to build any chemistry. Veteran teams have a huge advantage this year.
Yes, it's really as simple as that.
I was hoping that after last year JP would have least 'suggested' assistant changes were needed. Biggest fail IMHO.
Not revisionist History... His last 3 years he finished 11th, 12th, and 11th in B12, averaging only 4 conference wins a season. We were terrible when he left.
Thats true. But Fran put them in a system that has made them better.
But none of them are heads and shoulders more talented than our core group. I know Iowa has played together a lot more but that’s been Prohm’s biggest issue IMO, he’s always shifting pieces in and out of the program whereas Fran recruited people that fit his system. Hell, Prohm doesn’t even HAVE a system to recruit to.
Do they though? It took Foster one game to get pissed about his playing time and we've had a crap ton of guys either not buy into him or bail early because they didn't want to play here anymore. It's a trend at this point and only a matter of time before he starts losing the players again.
Was Covid going on last year too? Cuz this looks a lot like last year.
You act like that is worse than what we are seeing. At least McDermott didn’t come into a top 10 team and then destroy it they had issues before hand too. Prohm destroying the Hoiberg style program makes it worse.
Prohm is on track to finish 9 or 10 which is the same thing in 4 of his last 5 and all of his last three. The good year was a dysfunctional 5th place finish.
Didn’t Iowa go on a 24-7 run with Garza on the bench until halftime?
Yeah he's posted that several times, including once last month, on his Instagram stories. He does quite a bit of Q&As on there.
McD is doing a good coaching job there, but it helps when you buy players.
Yes, but it's ISU. Arkansas Pine Bluff went on a 14-2 run on us. It's not that hard to do.
Sure players like Loren Meyer don't happen every year, but looking back over the last 20 years the Cyclones have put some solid 4/5 players on the court to compliment really strong guards.
But we aren't seeing that kind of recruiting by Prohm. The post players Prohm has recruited that earned consistent playing time are: Young, Lard, Jacobson (tfr) and Conditt.
Sure the game has changed in that most teams like to play 3 guards and a small power forward. But a lot of the guys from the below list were damn good 3 point shooters and could play 4 in a Steve Prohm small-ball offense.
ISU 4/5 players since 2000 pretty much chronological:
- Rancik
- Shirley
- Pearson
- Vroman
- Homan
- Clark
- Hubalek
- Brackins
- Gilstrap
- Vanderbeken
- White
- Ejim
- Clyburn
- Niang
- Hogue
- McKay
- Burton
If I would rank where Prohm's recruit fit in the 2000 to 2020 list of post players, they would all be near the bottom.
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I'd have to check, but iirc CSP's teams tend to not finish the half strong, or come out very well after halftime.
Last night was definitely that.
I'll spare you looking that up....you're right. It drives me insane how many games get away from us between the under 4 timeout in the first half and the under 16 in the 2nd.
I was thinking about this today. The reality is we’re going to be a cycling program that recruits well.
