It was a disciplinary issue for his attitude on the bench and floor. He then blew up at CFH telling him he ruined his career and chance at the pros. BDJ was a ticking time bomb that Fred was never able to control and could never come to grip with a supporting role behind Georges and Monte.
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Not sure the specifics on why, but I’d assume because he was one of the ones up all night so his focus clearly wasn’t all there, or a matchup problem.
Yeah it did. And the sideline interview prior to the start of the 2H supports it. “that mother f*****” isn’t going t play me” You can literally read BDJ’s lips as MA is trying to play babysitter.
He played five minutes in the first half. Chucked up two 3 pointers that missed badly, turned the ball over twice and got beat defensively.
If this is truly what happened, then I never, ever want to hear or read again about how CFH's "hands off" approach to his players is so much better than whatever CSP's approach is. And that's not intended as a defense of the last couple of seasons under his leadership
Georges will end his coaching career at ISU on his deathbed at the ripe old age of 200
The second part of this comment is why he didn’t play. Body language is one thing, but there was no locker room flip out where a chair was thrown at Fred.
Iirc Thomas also didn't play much in the 2nd half and he was one of a few players that played like he understood this was a one and done situation and I've always been curious about that.
Here a couple of interesting box scores from that game, courtesy of a couple of the sabermetrics websites I like to follow during college basketball season...
KenPom's might be paywalled, but Thomas did indeed have a good game; 11 points with 3/5 shooting from 3-point land, but he only played 21 minutes.
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Bart Torvik's isn't paywalled, and it's incomplete, but I did notice that we had a 91% to win that game.
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I think CSP said "hot hand" a lot, but i honestly dont remember it that way. If anything it felt more like the opposite, at least in my admittedly unreliable memory.
Seemed more like THT got a lot of 1st half minutes, whether he was on or off. Then Wigg would come in a while, usually look good, and then back to the bench. I always wondered if maybe he was still nursing an injury and CSP was limiting his minutes because of that. Since no other rational reason existed for it.
I think you might be remembering what you want to and not what really happened.
Or is that another word for not confronting/correcting players' behavior with consequences? Just observing Royce White's issues since leaving Ames kinda tells me he didn't have many guard rails with Fred...
Lindell averaged 1 less mpg than THT and he played more mpg than Jacobson that year. He got starters minutes, down the stretch, when he came in, he essentially played the rest of the game. The only guys who played more were Shayok (DUH!!), NWB (PG) and Tyrese (Duh!). He wasn't in Shayoks league and the only thing he brought better than the other two was scoring. When he came in, he was often asked to carry the offense. IMO he was built for the role Prohm gave him that year.
IMO Johnny Orr, Fred Hoiberg and Steve Prohm were all cut from the same cloth. I am not saying they were equal as coaches, but focused on the offensive side and about the only way ISU was going to win was out shoot the opponent. We weren't going to be the better defensive or rebounding team.
Floyd and Eustachy took a different approach. They were going to defend, rebound and play with great effort. Throw in some good offensive skilled players and you have winning teams.
IMO if Prohm is gone after this season, I see ISU hiring a coach in the Floyd/Eustachy mold (coaching wise
).
Floyd and Eustachy took a different approach. They were going to defend, rebound and play with great effort. Throw in some good offensive skilled players and you have winning teams.
IMO if Prohm is gone after this season, I see ISU hiring a coach in the Floyd/Eustachy mold (coaching wise
).
IMO Johnny Orr, Fred Hoiberg and Steve Prohm were all cut from the same cloth. I am not saying they were equal as coaches, but focused on the offensive side and about the only way ISU was going to win was out shoot the opponent. We weren't going to be the better defensive or rebounding team.
Floyd and Eustachy took a different approach. They were going to defend, rebound and play with great effort. Throw in some good offensive skilled players and you have winning teams.
IMO if Prohm is gone after this season, I see ISU hiring a coach in the Floyd/Eustachy mold (coaching wise
IMO, Floyd and Eustachy are the two best "X's and O's" coaches in ISU history and I don't think it's particularly close.
It's purely "what if" kind of thinking at this point, but how good could ISU have been without Floyd's ambition and LE's substance abuse issues?
Off topic but does Iowa State have a chance to actually win a game today? Miss St looks really bad according to thier metrics and some of the margins of their losses.
This might be the worst team we have left on the schedule besides K-State
This might be the worst team we have left on the schedule besides K-State
