End of January Update Coach Prohm

What to do with Coach Prohm

  • Fire Prohm now

    Votes: 77 19.8%
  • Fire Prohm at the end of the year

    Votes: 251 64.7%
  • Give Prohm one more year

    Votes: 52 13.4%
  • Prohm is doing a good job

    Votes: 8 2.1%

  • Total voters
    388

CySmurf

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It must be nice to be simplistic enough to look at where this basketball team is at right now, and blame the coach. Gosh, if only all of life were that simple and straightforward.
Life is also better when you don't overthink every situation. Blame the players? Ok. They're either not being coached well or not held accountable...both coaching issues to a degree.
 

Aclone

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He's making millions of dollars. That makes him responsible for everything that happens under the basketball program.

He took a program that was consistently going to the NCAA tournament and playing at a high level and turned it into a program that has finished in 9th or 10th in 3 of the last 4 years.

He should have been out last year when it was apparent that he'd mismanaged things enough that this year was inevitable. He certainly deserves to be fired now.
I’m not going to post the full list of factors, but by saying he’s “responsible for everything”, you’re blaming him for, among other things,

A. Blake Lynch’s illness,

B. Xavier Fister’s unhealed injury from high school,

C. Tyrese going pro after two years, when no one could have expected that when he was recruited,

D. Tre Jackson’s bad knee,

man’s lastly...

E. COVID.

That from issues with workouts before the season, to missed, badly needed game experience (we’ve played six fewer games than MSU) to currently missing players.

Are you aware of just how buck stupid blaming someone for all of that is?

And since we’ve played so few games, let alone so long since won, this is nothing but an extended postgame meltdown.

It was just before all the COVID bumps in the road that we were playing Top Ten teams tough, after all. Despite the fact that we have so little experience returning.

Look at Iowa. I’m no expert on them, but I do know they have a core of at least four players who have played at least three years on the court together.

Us? Our “core of experience” would be Bolton and Solomon, who have spent a grand total of one year before now on the court in games together full time.

Basketball is a game of teamwork. This group has had no chance to develop teamwork.

And that sure as hell isn’t Steve Prohm’s fault.
 

cb1030

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Would love to hear how it can get worse. I'll wait.
Not really hard to imagine. Players could quit, commitments decommit. Nobody wants to get their teeth kicked in over and over following a coach that has nothing to offer.
 

alarson

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I’m not going to post the full list of factors, but by saying he’s “responsible for everything”, you’re blaming him for, among other things,

A. Blake Lynch’s illness,

B. Xavier Fister’s unhealed injury from high school,

C. Tyrese going pro after two years, when no one could have expected that when he was recruited,

D. Tre Jackson’s bad knee,

man’s lastly...

E. COVID.

That from issues with workouts before the season, to missed, badly needed game experience (we’ve played six fewer games than MSU) to currently missing players.

Are you aware of just how buck stupid blaming someone for all of that is?

And since we’ve played so few games, let alone so long since won, this is nothing but an extended postgame meltdown.

It was just before all the COVID bumps in the road that we were playing Top Ten teams tough, after all. Despite the fact that we have so little experience returning.

Look at Iowa. I’m no expert on them, but I do know they have a core of at least four players who have played at least three years on the court together.

Us? Our “core of experience” would be Bolton and Solomon, who have spent a grand total of one year before now on the court in games together full time.

Basketball is a game of teamwork. This group has had no chance to develop teamwork.

And that sure as hell isn’t Steve Prohm’s fault.

You say its like its just this year. Or just those players that are the reason we're where we're at (plenty of recruiting misses and regression among some players have played just as big of a role)

He's underperformed almost his entire tenure and has led us to historic losses.

Losers make lists of excuses.
 

CySmurf

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I’m not going to post the full list of factors, but by saying he’s “responsible for everything”, you’re blaming him for, among other things,

A. Blake Lynch’s illness,

B. Xavier Fister’s unhealed injury from high school,

C. Tyrese going pro after two years, when no one could have expected that when he was recruited,

D. Tre Jackson’s bad knee,

man’s lastly...

E. COVID.

That from issues with workouts before the season, to missed, badly needed game experience (we’ve played six fewer games than MSU) to currently missing players.

Are you aware of just how buck stupid blaming someone for all of that is?

And since we’ve played so few games, let alone so long since won, this is nothing but an extended postgame meltdown.

It was just before all the COVID bumps in the road that we were playing Top Ten teams tough, after all. Despite the fact that we have so little experience returning.

Look at Iowa. I’m no expert on them, but I do know they have a core of at least four players who have played at least three years on the court together.

Us? Our “core of experience” would be Bolton and Solomon, who have spent a grand total of one year before now on the court in games together full time.

Basketball is a game of teamwork. This group has had no chance to develop teamwork.

And that sure as hell isn’t Steve Prohm’s fault.
Aclone...understandable. But someone will be held responsible and accountable for the loses...that will be Prohm. Whether you think it's dumb or not.
 
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CloneGuy8

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IlliniCy

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I’m not going to post the full list of factors, but by saying he’s “responsible for everything”, you’re blaming him for, among other things,

A. Blake Lynch’s illness,

B. Xavier Fister’s unhealed injury from high school,

C. Tyrese going pro after two years, when no one could have expected that when he was recruited,

D. Tre Jackson’s bad knee,

man’s lastly...

E. COVID.

That from issues with workouts before the season, to missed, badly needed game experience (we’ve played six fewer games than MSU) to currently missing players.

Are you aware of just how buck stupid blaming someone for all of that is?

And since we’ve played so few games, let alone so long since won, this is nothing but an extended postgame meltdown.

It was just before all the COVID bumps in the road that we were playing Top Ten teams tough, after all. Despite the fact that we have so little experience returning.

Look at Iowa. I’m no expert on them, but I do know they have a core of at least four players who have played at least three years on the court together.

Us? Our “core of experience” would be Bolton and Solomon, who have spent a grand total of one year before now on the court in games together full time.

Basketball is a game of teamwork. This group has had no chance to develop teamwork.

And that sure as hell isn’t Steve Prohm’s fault.
It is his responsibility.

And who is Fister? The faucet guy?
 

awd4cy

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I’m not going to post the full list of factors, but by saying he’s “responsible for everything”, you’re blaming him for, among other things,

A. Blake Lynch’s illness,

B. Xavier Fister’s unhealed injury from high school,

C. Tyrese going pro after two years, when no one could have expected that when he was recruited,

D. Tre Jackson’s bad knee,

man’s lastly...

E. COVID.

That from issues with workouts before the season, to missed, badly needed game experience (we’ve played six fewer games than MSU) to currently missing players.

Are you aware of just how buck stupid blaming someone for all of that is?

And since we’ve played so few games, let alone so long since won, this is nothing but an extended postgame meltdown.

It was just before all the COVID bumps in the road that we were playing Top Ten teams tough, after all. Despite the fact that we have so little experience returning.

Look at Iowa. I’m no expert on them, but I do know they have a core of at least four players who have played at least three years on the court together.

Us? Our “core of experience” would be Bolton and Solomon, who have spent a grand total of one year before now on the court in games together full time.

Basketball is a game of teamwork. This group has had no chance to develop teamwork.

And that sure as hell isn’t Steve Prohm’s fault.
You have always been in denial with bad coaches in the past. How can you never see it hit you in the face over and over?
 
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SwirlyBird

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I’m not going to post the full list of factors, but by saying he’s “responsible for everything”, you’re blaming him for, among other things,

A. Blake Lynch’s illness,

B. Xavier Fister’s unhealed injury from high school,

C. Tyrese going pro after two years, when no one could have expected that when he was recruited,

D. Tre Jackson’s bad knee,

man’s lastly...

E. COVID.

That from issues with workouts before the season, to missed, badly needed game experience (we’ve played six fewer games than MSU) to currently missing players.

Are you aware of just how buck stupid blaming someone for all of that is?

And since we’ve played so few games, let alone so long since won, this is nothing but an extended postgame meltdown.

It was just before all the COVID bumps in the road that we were playing Top Ten teams tough, after all. Despite the fact that we have so little experience returning.

Look at Iowa. I’m no expert on them, but I do know they have a core of at least four players who have played at least three years on the court together.

Us? Our “core of experience” would be Bolton and Solomon, who have spent a grand total of one year before now on the court in games together full time.

Basketball is a game of teamwork. This group has had no chance to develop teamwork.

And that sure as hell isn’t Steve Prohm’s fault.

Xavier Fister
 

fcclone

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Yea sure, because I’m sure it’s not already toxic.
I agree it is already toxic. I don’t understand the thought process of making it more toxic for the next coach.
 

DeereClone

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Next guy needs to be an up and comer who brought his team to Ames one year, and was so impressed with the atmosphere that he called his wife to tell her he could see them being there.

that fairy tale would never happen