Anyone else hearing that JP has already decided Prohm is coming back?

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I can promise you that the donor money is there for the buyout, I know that very well. In fact, there is more likely a lack of donor money for other things if he is retained.

Big donors hate losing just as much as the rest of us as they look at the money as a sort of investment. They don’t want to feel like they’re continuing to step up and not get reciprocal commitment.


Plus, didn't Jamie just a few weeks ago tell us that we lost $10 million less in 2020 than he expected. Hmmm. He knows how to work in the million$.
 
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There are two sides to firing CSP.

Do you have good cause and the money to fire your current coach.

Do you have a good list of interested replacement coaches that you have the money to buy out and go hire.

Timing is everything.

This isn't Pollard's first rodeo.

Trust the process.
 

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There are two sides to firing CSP.

Do you have good cause and the money to fire your current coach.

Do you have a good list of interested replacement coaches that you have the money to buy out and go hire.

Timing is everything.

This isn't Pollard's first rodeo.

Trust the process.

That's my biggest fear about firing him this year. Will economics force you to settle for a lesser candidate then we end up here again in a couple years?
 
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Actually there aren’t. When you can pick up tickets for free or $5 on the secondary market there is no need to get season tickets.

Agree. I dont think there is any demand for NEW season tickets holders. I do think existing holders are pretty sticky in renewals, but they arent permanent. The trick is that the renewals arent going to near as many games.

Yes we have a ton of season tix sold, and paid attendance is 14k, but last year i would guess actual butts in seats was more 8k average.

Eventually a chunk of those season tix holders will go away.
 
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That's my biggest fear about firing him this year. Will economics force you to settle for a lesser candidate then we end up here again in a couple years?

it was 3 1/2 years before people started backing away supporting from mcdermott because he wasn’t Wayne Morgan, and really only then because his contract got published.

the next guy will get at least that long.
 

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That was the snapshot from three years ago. In 2019 you could purchase additional season tickets if you wanted to. If he keeps Prohm season ticket sales will below 9,000. Those fans can always renew when we get good again. It’s not the $12,500 and $5,000 donors that are going to stop renewing. Rather it’s the people who are in the upper level that won’t renew.

See this is why I won't be shocked if he is retained for one more year. Like you said, the 12,5's aren't going to stop renewing. It wouldn't have mattered if were 19-0 and 80k wanted in Hilton this year, the market was shot. So if next year the team doesn't come out of this.....and Hilton is empty because of bad play and not because of protocols and restrictions.....then you get your new hire. Because like you said......"those" upper level fans can renew and since we didn't lose the 12,5's,,,,,everything is everything.
 

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So what's your guess. If ISU brings back Prohm next season, what do you think the average attendance at Hilton will be next year?

My guess is 11,000.

IMO you are kidding yourself if you think there will be 13-14,000 fans per game next season. Just go back at Hilton attendance during the McDermott years. The published attendance was typically between 11-12k. In reality, a lot of games there were 8-10k fans in the stands during the later McDermott years. Right now ISU basketball is at historic lows- so not much the marketing department can sell.

It will be interesting to see how students show up, either way really. Historically tend to show up when we are good and for big games especially, but this group of students hasn't had tons of good.....BUT, maybe post pandemic events students missed out on will get a slight bump.

If Prohm is back, truly will be interesting to see the "fans voting with their feet" outcome.
 

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It will be interesting to see how students show up, either way really. Historically tend to show up when we are good and for big games especially, but this group of students hasn't had tons of good.....BUT, maybe post pandemic events students missed out on will get a slight bump.

If Prohm is back, truly will be interesting to see the "fans voting with their feet" outcome.



You can't go Ofer.
 

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To return a coach who goes 0-fer the Big 12 is to say that basketball does not matter here.

We all know that is not true.

The only way it does not happen is if they cannot come up with the money to make the change. It is principled for JP to say, after a year where every program in his department had to sustain cuts to stay afloat, that the impulse to make the change has to come from donors outside the department. I think it will.
 

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Even during a worldwide pandemic?

This is the x-factor that I think everyone is leaving out of the discussion. I think that CSP is cooked, but like I've said before, I wouldn't be shocked if he was back. Concerned and disappointed, yes.

Covid is a factor and has been acknowledged but I think ISU is the only P6 team without a conference win so that's more of an ISU problem.
 
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