Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

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Sure they do, and they would be repeating the same mistake the Big 12 made when aTm, Colorado left. If they wait KU will be in the PAC 12, and they will be left with ISU and who?

Pitt has the same problems with the league that ISU does, already a team in that state, no way they pick a school like Buffalo, none of the other big 12 schools are AAU members, so try and pry UV or UNC from the ACC, go after Georgia Tech?

The ACC teams are basically off the table. Their media rights are already tied up until The Jetsons time.
 

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Sure they do, and they would be repeating the same mistake the Big 12 made when aTm, Colorado left. If they wait KU will be in the PAC 12, and they will be left with ISU and who?

I dont think the big 12 made a mistake. None of the expansion candidates would have increased revenue (most would have diluted it) nor would they have saved the conference if OU\UT left.

The big 12's only real chance at saving itself from an OU\UT type loss wouldve been when there were rumors of poaching FSU\Clemson. But those rumors seem like just that, rumors, and theyre locked up now
 

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Here's a hypothetical for everyone on nuclear meltdown mode. This is strictly in regards to Oklahoma because Texas is insignificant and have always been massive underachievers.

Let's say Cambpbell has 10 years left, the first 5 we continue like we have with Oklahoma and Texas, 8-10 win seasons, keep making good bowl games, but he just can't get over the Oklahoma hump. He either loses to them in the championship game again, or slips up against some other team which prevents us from even getting there. No Big 12 championships or playoffs.

The last 5 Oklahoma is gone, the Big 12 stays together with the remaining 8 and adds 2 other teams. Iowa St becomes the premier team in the conference under Campbell, wins at least a couple Big 12 titles and gets invited to the 12 team playoff at least once, multiple NFL picks, sold out games every Saturday.

What the hell is the difference??? Because now we cant play Oklahoma once or twice anymore? We weren't even competitive with them for like 30 years until Kyle Kempt and Matt Cambpell came along. Is it really all about the TV revenue driving all this? Who's to say Campbell won't stay or they find some other way to pony up his salary.

Another thing with recruiting, it's all relative, you guys act like our recruiting would take a hit, but so would every other team in the conference. There's still the same amount of players out there, we have added 2 new expansion teams to college football. Yeah, the overall talent of the conference will go down but it's relative. What's the worst case if that happens? We can beat Big 12 teams but can't compete with ghr Alabama and Clemsons? How is that any different than right now.
 

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Here's a hypothetical for everyone on nuclear meltdown mode. This is strictly in regards to Oklahoma because Texas is insignificant and have always been massive underachievers.

Let's say Cambpbell has 10 years left, the first 5 we continue like we have with Oklahoma and Texas, 8-10 win seasons, keep making good bowl games, but he just can't get over the Oklahoma hump. He either loses to them in the championship game again, or slips up against some other team which prevents us from even getting there. No Big 12 championships or playoffs.

The last 5 Oklahoma is gone, the Big 12 stays together with the remaining 8 and adds 2 other teams. Iowa St becomes the premier team in the conference under Campbell, wins at least a couple Big 12 titles and gets invited to the 12 team playoff at least once, multiple NFL picks, sold out games every Saturday.

What the hell is the difference??? Because now we cant play Oklahoma once or twice anymore? We weren't even competitive with them for like 30 years until Kyle Kempt and Matt Cambpell came along. Is it really all about the TV revenue driving all this? Who's to say Campbell won't stay or they find some other way to pony up his salary.

Another thing with recruiting, it's all relative, you guys act like our recruiting would take a hit, but so would every other team in the conference. There's still the same amount of players out there, we have added 2 new expansion teams to college football. Yeah, the overall talent of the conference will go down but it's relative. What's the worst case if that happens? We can beat Big 12 teams but can't compete with ghr Alabama and Clemsons? How is that any different than right now.

I know you want to convince yourself of this. I hope to God you are right.

But you've said a lot of stupid things on this board (admittedly I have also said many stupid things on this board). Trying to justify why Campbell would stay in a ****** conference for less money is by far the stupidest thing either one of us have said.
 

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Of course, the big 10 still has its other option: staying where theyre at.

That doesn’t seem to be how these things shake out though. Like I said it’s an arms race. If you aren’t moving forward you’re losing. Even if a conference has to take a chance that they wouldn’t have at this same time last year.
 
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I know you want to convince yourself of this. I hope to God you are right.

But you've said a lot of stupid things on this board (admittedly I have also said many stupid things on this board). Trying to justify why Campbell would stay in a ****** conference for less money is by far the stupidest thing either one of us have said.
I don’t know, you said the best we could do was hiring a position coach of a G5 team after we fired Rhoads.
 

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I know you want to convince yourself of this. I hope to God you are right.

But you've said a lot of stupid things on this board (admittedly I have also said many stupid things on this board). Trying to justify why Campbell would stay in a ****** conference for less money is by far the stupidest thing either one of us have said.
Coaches want to coach against the best. They don't think in terms of how can I play less competition so I can win more games or get to the playoff easier. If we don't end up in a major conference there is no way he's staying. That's why everyone leaves Boise State.
 

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That doesn’t seem to be how these things shake out though. Like I said it’s an arms race. If you aren’t moving forward you’re losing. Even if a conference has to take a chance that they wouldn’t have at this same time last year.

If it truly is an arms race for football supremacy, I want you to imagine the thought of the SEC adding Texas/OU and the B1G adding KU/ISU. Please just imagine that. It's not going to happen.
 
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I don’t know, you said the best we could do was hiring a position coach of a G5 team after we fired Rhoads.

We will be hoping for a position coach when we are in a bad conference ;)

I shouldn't bring this up, but it's almost midnight....remember how much fun I was when Hoiberg left? And how I thought it was a terrible thing for our basketball program (turns out I was right!)? This would be FAR worse.

I'm kidding!

Or am I?
 

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If it truly is an arms race for football supremacy, I want you to imagine the thought of the SEC adding Texas/OU and the B1G adding KU/ISU. Please just imagine that. It's not going to happen.

Do you think the Big 10 has reached out to Texas and OU now after this has leaked?
 

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2 important things that everyone must consider, that are in the B1G byelaws that are requirements for admittance to the conference. These are in the byelaws, they are required, these could be changed but never have, and at this point would mean not only changing the byelaws then inviting or approving someone, It is much more likely they add someone that fits their byelaws.

1. University Must be AAU member to be admitted or invited.
2. Must be in current footprint or in adjacent state. Meaning the state must touch the current state footprint. (UNC would require UVA to join for instance to meet this requirement)

Look at AAU list then look at schools that might be available, then look at the B1G footprint, it is a small list.

If the Big 12 implodes, and the B1G decides to add, ISU is one of the only schools that fit without making concessions.

The Big Ten has attempted multiple times to add Notre Dame as a full time member and ND is not an AAU member.
 

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You seem to think the Big 12 is over. Why would Texas and OU leave a conference they own?????
 

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2 important things that everyone must consider, that are in the B1G byelaws that are requirements for admittance to the conference. These are in the byelaws, they are required, these could be changed but never have, and at this point would mean not only changing the byelaws then inviting or approving someone, It is much more likely they add someone that fits their byelaws.

1. University Must be AAU member to be admitted or invited.
2. Must be in current footprint or in adjacent state. Meaning the state must touch the current state footprint. (UNC would require UVA to join for instance to meet this requirement)

Look at AAU list then look at schools that might be available, then look at the B1G footprint, it is a small list.

If the Big 12 implodes, and the B1G decides to add, ISU is one of the only schools that fit without making concessions.
Nebraska was an AAU outlier when they joined, I believe, FWIW.

There is 0.0 chance the Big Ten adds ISU. None. There’s not another dollar of revenue by making the move. It would be better off standing pat than adding ISU, unfortunately.