The End of NCAA, Beginning of Semi Pro College Athletics?

[TXCyclones]

That’s the big unknown. I think the SEC is worried about them first and only and the rest will be left to shake out behind them. I think they figure as long as they move first, any of the ways it plays out works for what they want.

And here is the next part... if UT and OU do NOT go to the SEC they've effectively killed the B12 anyway. Because WHY would ANY other relevant program want to move over to such a dysfunctional f'ng mess as the B12 now? The Pac12 was on the ropes as the worst conference and now UT and OU have completely f'd that up. Motherf****ers!

 

[Clonedogg]

Have not read everything, but it seems Collegiate sports as I love it is dead man walking, and high level college football maybe a thing of the past before we know it.

 

[norcalcy]

Have not read everything, but it seems Collegiate sports as I love it is dead man walking, and high level college football maybe a thing of the past before we know it.

Agree. You can't have an institution or collaboration where a subset of people are constantly scheming to screw the rest for their own profit and gain. Pete Rozelle figured that out early in the life of the NFL. So much speculation in so many threads today about us to the Big 10 or the Pac 12 as if we can climb aboard a life raft with Iowa, Purdue, Arizona, Washington and others. They're just as screwed as we are if this keeps up. Look out west. USC, UCLA, Arizona State... they're all being left out of this. Their "brands" are already in serious decline and just don't matter to this cabal that wants to take the sport down the toilet. SEC wants to own college football and they are going to decide who gets into their exclusive club. Screw them. I won't watch. I hope they fail miserably once they get what they want.

 

[deadeyededric]

Have not read everything, but it seems Collegiate sports as I love it is dead man walking, and high level college football maybe a thing of the past before we know it.

It was inevitable. The idea that ISU was going to compete with larger money schools in an unregulated pay-for-play system was laughable.

 

[ruxCYtable]

There were a lot of people saying anyone who thought NIL/paying players would destroy college athletics were morons. Here we are, just a few short weeks later.

 

[alarson]

It was inevitable. The idea that ISU was going to compete with larger money schools in an unregulated pay-for-play system was laughable.

Really wasn't a good look when CF had about 4 podcasts in a row with people cheering the new NIL changes and being dismissive of all the consequences that were going to come of this. The consequences came faster than I thought.

 

[deadeyededric]

Really wasn't a good look when CF had about 4 podcasts in a row with people cheering the new NIL changes and being dismissive of all the consequences that were going to come of this. The consequences came faster than I thought.

We have had 4 winning seasons in a row now and some of our fans suddenly think we're a huge $$$ athletic department that every conference wants.

 

[sclotz]

My recent post was censored and removed. Let me know how to stop my tier account and I’ll continue perusing cyclone fanatic like nearly everyone else with zero financial impact.

 

[Rio4CY]

Really wasn't a good look when CF had about 4 podcasts in a row with people cheering the new NIL changes and being dismissive of all the consequences that were going to come of this. The consequences came faster than I thought.

I wish I wasn't right!

 

[usedcarguy]

The only logical explanation I can come up with is that OU and Texas feel they need the extra money of being in the SEC to be competitive on the national stage in regards to the NIL era. I disagree that it's necessary, that doesn't mean they don't believe it.

As for this super league concept, (devoid of the NCAA) there are not that many schools that have a national brand. Heck, even in the SEC, it would be a stretch to come up with 4 or 5. If they get too stupid, they run the risk of isolating themselves. There is nothing unique about several of the schools in the conference other than their fan bases. Miss and Miss St. only have enrollments of around 22k students each and their population is less than Iowa. Can't see them being a beneficiary in a super league. Yeah, they may get more TV money than someone like us, But with schools like OU and UT coming, they both get pushed further down the food chain and will be looking at perennial sub .500 records.

 

[IAStubborn]

What happens if the SEC splits and the other conferences don't? Wouldn't it be the ultimate flex move by the Big10 schools to just say no thanks and leave the SEC on an island? As important as football is to those schools, they cannot survive on their own. They need at least a majority of the P5 schools to join them.

Right the only reason we care about the national championship or college football is because our team plays in and has a chance to compete for it if it is just a southern semi-pro league then it is Arena Football to me. I may watch if bored but I wouldn’t give a rats ass. If the rest of college football holds firm you have a regional sport and it loses a lot of national interest.

 

[KnappShack]

If college is semi pro (officially, unofficially) then why wouldn't I just watch the pros?

The charm of college football is gutted and will only get worse.

Want me not to care? Ok. Mission accomplished

 

[Clonehomer]

Really the question is which dies first, college football or ESPN? I'm not sure they realize yet just how badly they're going to be screwed with over half the CFB fans taking a more casual approach to the sport. Suddenly, that $85 /month for the premium TV packages doesn't make as much sense. Sure, the fans of the big schools will still care, but it's not like the rest of us will just change allegences to those schools.

 

[cyatheart]

Really the question is which dies first, college football or ESPN? I'm not sure they realize yet just how badly they're going to be screwed with over half the CFB fans taking a more casual approach to the sport. Suddenly, that $85 /month for the premium TV packages doesn't make as much sense. Sure, the fans of the big schools will still care, but it's not like the rest of us will just change allegences to those schools.

they don’t care if Iowa state fans care, there aren’t enough of us

 

[cyclone1209]

College football is pretty much ruined. It used to be about schools, traditions, and rivalries but none of that matters any more. Why would I waste my time watching a semi pro league when I can watch professionals in the NFL?

College football at the end of the day should be about the fans and about the programs. Yes let players get paid, but if you take away all the rivalry games each year... you can guess what happens to fan support (it'll go down)

Make the big ten like a 3 division super league: The Big Ten Atlantic, The Big Ten Rustbelt, and the Big Ten West (which we can be invited to). I like this scenario if we can get into the big ten.

 

[clonedude]

Really wasn't a good look when CF had about 4 podcasts in a row with people cheering the new NIL changes and being dismissive of all the consequences that were going to come of this. The consequences came faster than I thought.

And it could end up being the end of CF too as we know it. I hope not, but if I were CW, Jared, etc, etc.... I'd probably want to start looking for a new career.

The ramifications of the NIL came a lot faster than we all anticipated.... and it's not good for college football at all it seems.

 

[cyclone1209]

And it could end up being the end of CF too as we know it. I hope not, but if I were CW, Jared, etc, etc.... I'd probably want to start looking for a new career.

The ramifications of the NIL came a lot faster than we all anticipated.... and it's not good for college football at all it seems.

Too early to tell

I just have to ask for the SEC - what is the benefit to adding OU and TX? You're already THE premier league. And in the case of TX and OU, why leave? They run the big 12 for all intents and purposes.

You can bet TX politicians will be hammering UT on this issue because if TX leaves and dissolves the big 12: what have you just done to baylor, T Tech, TCU, etc. you're leaving the rest of the state dry for college football purposes. Did I mention I hate UT?

 

[IcSyU]

I just have to ask for the SEC - what is the benefit to adding OU and TX?

Uh, dolla dolla bill y'all?

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

The difference is that only in the SEC is the AD more powerful than the school president. Everywhere else, the best interest of the school is taken ahead of the best interest of the football team. So I don't see the Big10, ACC, or PAC12 making a jump away from the status quo. Especially if there is a negative impact to the other sports teams.

Agreed. There's much more money on the academic side for the B1G. They aren't going to sign up for a semi pro league. They take pride in their school and traditions and rivalries.

 

[RustShack]

Too early to tell

I just have to ask for the SEC - what is the benefit to adding OU and TX? You're already THE premier league. And in the case of TX and OU, why leave? They run the big 12 for all intents and purposes.

You can bet TX politicians will be hammering UT on this issue because if TX leaves and dissolves the big 12: what have you just done to baylor, T Tech, TCU, etc. you're leaving the rest of the state dry for college football purposes. Did I mention I hate UT?

It’s OU and Texas. That’s why they take them. You do realize that with 16 teams, teams won’t be playing each other every year right? OU isn’t going to have to worry about losing to Alabama every year. Or even every other year. They might play once every 5 years other than maybe conference championship games.