You might be right, which is part of the reason ISU & KU to the B1G makes sense: The B1G can get compelling, Power 5 brands in ISU and KU (at least in basketball) at a "bargain price". However, given the disparity between the B1G and Big 12 in per school revenue, ISU & KU's initial share may not be far off their Big 12 allotment. Plus, the stability, brand and negotiating power of the B1G will position both schools well for long term growth.
Where Will ISU End Up if the Big 12 Implodes?
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You might be right, which is part of the reason ISU & KU to the B1G makes sense: The B1G can get compelling, Power 5 brands in ISU and KU (at least in basketball) at a "bargain price". However, given the disparity between the B1G and Big 12 in per school revenue, ISU & KU's initial share may not be far off their Big 12 allotment. Plus, the stability, brand and negotiating power of the B1G will position both schools well for long term growth.
The growing question now is; "If" A&M moves to the B1G, does that help or hurt ISU's chances?
If KU is ahead of ISU on the B1G pecking list, it clearly hurts, if not eliminates our chances at membership.
If ISU is first on their list, A&M will bring significant revenue to the table, which would offset any concerns regarding ISU diluting the annual member payout.
If KU is ahead of ISU on the B1G pecking list, it clearly hurts, if not eliminates our chances at membership.
If ISU is first on their list, A&M will bring significant revenue to the table, which would offset any concerns regarding ISU diluting the annual member payout.
I think you over estimate the B1G West. If ISU and KU come to the B1G and the league keeps it East/West configuration, the West looks something like
- Kansas
- Illinois
- ISU
- Iowa
- Minnesota
- Nebraska
- Northwestern
- Wisconsin
Texas A&M to the B1G? They would lose money on that deal. Where's this idea coming from?
IA politicians would also want a soft landing spot for ISU as that would be economically beneficial for the state. Obviously, they don't vote in B1G affairs, but they influence state universities that do.
Tier 3 is the only thing directly related to the value of the actual institution.
KU had an agreement with IMG for 6 million per year.
Per Williams on several podcasts we probably made about 1.5 or 2 million from mediacom/Cyclones.tv.
Why would they want that? ISU doesn’t add financial value or prestige
How come so many people can't envision the future? Trends are very important. Show me another program with upward trending in competitiveness, facilities and growth better than Iowa State's. If you find any, there sure won't be a lot.
What about TAMU, Mizzou, KU, and ISU adding to the conference and taking it to 18.
And Ok St and WV filling the missing spots in the SEC.
Everyone’s happy and the Big 10 is on its way to 32 or whatever the goal number of schools is.
You need to take off the rose colored glasses. The same thing could have been said about Kansas football a decade ago. One good season isn’t going to make the big ten forget the past 100+ years. If CMC leaves who’s to say ISU won’t be back where they usually are. They have no financial incentive to take that risk. The big ten isn’t happening.
One good season? It’s about to be 3 plus seasons. And KU had a freaking track around their field. Even when they were good I don’t think they were selling out.
Why is it a huge financial risk? You get inventory for games which networks like and our ratings are always pretty good. We’d also sell a lot of subscriptions. Plus I think there is something to strength in numbers. If Bug10 expands, who do you add that is going to add huge value?
Uh, Kansas is a freaking blueblood in basketball. Of course they'll bring in some cash.
No one outside of ND or someone like Clemson. That’s my point though, the big ten has no need to expand unless a great opportunity presents itself. I’d hardly call ISU that. Look at the optics. The sec adds OU and texas. The big tens counter move is to add isu? No way. A move to the pac 12 is much more likely.
I guess I don't see it that way. Think NFL, a little better than .500 and you make the playoffs. Competitive balance that swings back and forth amongst the elite markets. Nobody will need to go 12-1 anymore.
Top 10 Finish LAST YEAR. Big 12 Title Contender THIS YEAR. It is all about the FUTURE. We are the hot new act. We have a lot going for us. Things have changed since 2010.
Your typical Iowa fan will but I do t think the university will.
But ND and Clemson are not coming to the Big 10 for another 10 to 15 years if at all. aTm nor Mizzou is going to leave the SEC when they are about to make 70 to 80 million a year from their new contracts with ESPN.
EIU fans keep making this same remark, ISU does not move the needle and the league will not expand without a team that can do it. Then you will not be expanding and get left behind by the SEC. The former Big 12 schools will not be sitting around waiting for the Big 10 hoping for seat at the table. They will be looking to move, KU to the ACC and the rest of us to the Pac 12.
