Can the Big 12 remain viable
- Thread starter Dolokaju
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Were we fighting to survive 1 week ago? 1 year ago? Nope, we were safe because we had TEX/OU. Now we don't. Our payouts with Tex/Ou are higher than the PAC-12; the PAC-12 knows they have a time zone problem and want to move east, and if you can guarantee USC 1.5 times more money than they are making now, why wouldn't they listen? What exactly are they married to in the PAC-12? Location means nothing.
Ultimately, it doesn't have to be a marriage to last forever, it just needs to last until the group of 64 happens. Can't let UCF, Houston, Memphis, etc. get on par with our brand before that time. Might as well make an already rich program even richer to keep our profile ahead of the group of 5 schools or you risk missing the bigger boat down the line.
I don't think a "New" Big12 would be 16 teams. IMO the Big12 had it right with 10 conference teams and no divisions. It allowed us to play all conference teams each year and top 2 teams played in conference championship game.
I think an 11 team conference could also work with a 10 game conference schedule and 2 non-con games.
I think an 11 team conference could also work with a 10 game conference schedule and 2 non-con games.
I think you're safe about never joining the BIG.
If OU and Texas leave early and that impacts the other 8 teams media rights revenue through 2025, I could see some SERIOUS litigation against OU and UT by the other 8.
Especially if ESPN or Fox were part of OU/UT approaching the SEC or Big10.
Might as well invite the '85 Bears too.
Also, you can't have it both ways. Can't say that the round robin is the toughest test in college football and claim an easier path to the playoff.
If our payouts get dropped to 10 MM each we can claim that OU/UT were inflicting about $300 MM year. So they each owe us 300MM each.
Ut/OU along with the SEC may be trying to help some of us to get into another league to avoid that and avoid the big XII saying fine, we are keeping you off TV for 3-4 years then.
So in the face of drastically reduced revenues, your want to spend 10s of millions more dollars fighting Disney's lawyers?
Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Been stewing on this topic for a few minutes and here are my thoughts on our landing spot.
1) BIG 10.
2) Pac 12.
3) Merge with AAC as a last resort for the following reason.
a) Getting Cinny, Houston or Central Florida might awaken a sleeping giant if they hit it big and they move up, the pecking order for the 64 spots. Realignment isn't over and could rear it's ugly head at anytime so we don't need more teams bidding for the last few spots.
1) BIG 10.
2) Pac 12.
3) Merge with AAC as a last resort for the following reason.
a) Getting Cinny, Houston or Central Florida might awaken a sleeping giant if they hit it big and they move up, the pecking order for the 64 spots. Realignment isn't over and could rear it's ugly head at anytime so we don't need more teams bidding for the last few spots.
If I took away the best network and time slot that would have no effect on AAC numbers?
Of course it would.
The truth is very obviously somewhere in between.
We're not talking about small differences in ticket sales and ticket prices. It's a wide gap other than KU.
Why would an ISU fan blindly slurp up unscientific data from a UCF blogger?
I think Big XII merges with the remnants of the ACC after the SEC steals Clemson and FSU.
Remember the old Big East maintained its Power status for awhile after Miami and the other big programs left. It had only SEVEN members and none were blue bloods
UConn might have got a bcs bowl with 6 or 7 wins and like a 50 sagarin rating iirc.
