Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

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You and I are on the same page today!

I just posted this in the In-State football thread:


In my dreams I think it will go something like:
- B1G quickly decides to stay put
- PAC has expansion plans announced
- B1G reacts and decides to expand too

Just like their COVID decision. Make quick decision, watch what others do, then react.

If the SEC and PAC get to 16 teams the B1G will want to follow suit. ACC will do the same in this scenario too.

SEC adds OU and Texas.
ACC adds WV and ??? (Cinc, UCF, Memphis)
B1G adds ISU and KU
PAC adds Ok St, K St, Tech and TCU

P4 with 16 teams each.

Baylor gets the boot to the AAC.
That’s exactly what I think too. I guarantee you Warren and tHe PAC12 commish are discussing things, and if the PAC decides they’re going for it, the B1G will not sit back and watch the SEC and PAC expand while they do nothing.
 
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I am starting to think this is not going to be quick as what I once thought. I assumed that once OU and UT made it official that they were leaving the other conferences would quickly want to fill their remaining spots.
But after hearing Jami last night saying that he expects for UT and OU to fulfill their obligation to the league or buy themselves out of it, and then seeing that the GOR for the Pac 12 runs out in 2024, I am thinking this is going to take a season or two.

ISU should be fine until at least 2023 not matter what happens, even if OU and UT pay the penalty and leave, and the rates decrease we should be able to make it at least two years. That will give both the Big 10 and Pac 12 time to decide what they are doing. Are they just going to set up some type of scheduling between the two conferences or are 4 to 6 teams going to break away and join the Big 10. Until we know that, and their GOR do not run out until 2024, we are in neutral going no where.
A long, drawn out process doesn't work from a recruiting perspective. No athletes are going to commit to teams that have uncertain conference homes hanging over them for months and/or years.
 
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A long, drawn out process doesn't work from a recruiting perspective. No athletes are going to commit to teams that have uncertain conference homes hanging over them for months and/or years.
100% correct. We are being damaged by all of this right now, at this moment.
 

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A long, drawn out process doesn't work from a recruiting perspective. No athletes are going to commit to teams that have uncertain conference homes hanging over them for months and/or years.

which is why those of you who think OU and Texas are going to be the ones who blink in this little staredown are being very optimistic.

Their recruiting won't be hurt at all because whether they're in the Big 12 or SEC, they're in a good spot. The other 8 teams though? The remaining 8 schools can't afford this to be drawn out past this year.

So both sides have leverage and a reason for this to be over quickly. That usually means settlement.
 
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which is why those of you who think OU and Texas are going to be the ones who blink in this little staredown are being very optimistic.

Their recruiting won't be hurt at all because whether they're in the Big 12 or SEC, they're in a good spot. The other 8 teams though? The remaining 8 schools can't afford this to be drawn out past this year.

So both sides have leverage and a reason for this to be over quickly. That usually means settlement.

it's only going to HELP their recruiting...
 
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A long, drawn out process doesn't work from a recruiting perspective. No athletes are going to commit to teams that have uncertain conference homes hanging over them for months and/or years.
It doesn't work out for the remaining big 12 teams, but why should the Big 10 and Pac 12 even care about that. Those conferences are going to do what is best for them, not us.
If Fox thanks margining the two leagues into one or taking the best of the Pac 12 and folding that into the big 10, then its a good bet that will and the rest of the league really do not matter, nor our recruiting.

Until those leagues decide what they are going to do, we are stuck in limbo along with the rest of the conference.
 

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SIAP, but there are now 'articles' popping up with USC and others from the PAC-12 being the right choices to go to B1G.

https://thespun.com/pac-12/usc/colin-cowherd-reaction-significant-big-ten-rumor-usc

It would be nice if the B1G 'AAU requirement' ended up being true, but not if it goes this direction...
The B1G isn’t going to counter this SEC move by instantly offering KU & ISU. That’d be ridiculous. They’re going to reach out to other AAU members such as USC and Stanford and try and make a push. Will they get them and does it make sense? Who knows. But if they don’t, they’re still going to be looking for members IMO and that’s where KU and ISU come in.
 

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How fun would it be to watch Texas get 4th place in a 4 team pod?
It would be great, but no way a conference like the SEC is going to put the premiere teams in two pods and the crappy teams in the other two pods. They want to get as many teams into the playoff has they can. So it will be OU, UT Ark. and Mizzou, in one aTm, LSU and the two Miss. schools in another. Alabama, Auburn, UK and Tenn, then Florida, Georgia, S. Carolina and Vandi in the other. 2 power teams 2 weak teams. Same with the ACC, no way they put Clemson, Florida St, Miami in the same pod.
 
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The B1G isn’t going to counter this SEC move by instantly offering KU & ISU. That’d be ridiculous. They’re going to reach out to other AAU members such as USC and Stanford and try and make a push. Will they get them and does it make sense? Who knows. But if they don’t, they’re still going to be looking for members IMO and that’s where KU and ISU come in.
The Big Ten may also reach out to UT...what does it hurt at this point? And given that TAMU's BOR is meeting again to discuss the SEC realignment (which seems to indicate that they aren't happy with these recent developments), the Big Ten may reach out to TAMU as well.
 

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It seems to me that Jamie said last night, albeit indirectly: we're not going to the B10 tomorrow, thus we need to take a longer view.

I'm not objective, but I don't see either Ku or ISU going to that conference because both add very little in viewership value to the existing slate, which translates to diminishing shares for the existing members.

Ku could go to the basketball league, the ACC, I suppose, but I'd bet WVU ends up there first. Iowa State hangs with the other B12 land grants likely in some sort of Pac 12 arrangement.
 
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The B1G poaching the best Pac-12 schools is not a worst case scenario for us. We would surely merge with the Pac-12 leftovers and exist in some space well behind the B1G and SEC in money but still in a league worth watching and still competitive, getting into the playoff, etc.