Big 12 Send Cease and Desist to ESPN

rickyrudd

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But if 10,000 fans from each of the other 8 Big 12 schools cancel their ESPN+ account for just 2 months that's over $1M lost to ESPN. Seems small, but that will be noticed. Even more if some are Disney subscriptions. And, that does not take into account the revenue from ads and selling of data that they will lose with less subscribers.
10,000 fans from each school are not going to do that though, because it’s stupid.
 

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is CBS just going to sit back and not do anything about the fact that ESPN out bid them for the SEC simply because ESPN had inside knowledge Texas and OU would be moving, a move of course orchestrated by ESPN? I would think CBS would be pissed.

I think at the very least we'll start seeing NFL on Saturdays. ESPN talking heads are already spouting off about the SEC being a "mini NFL."
 
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I think at the very least we'll start seeing NFL on Saturdays. ESPN talking heads are already spouting off about the SEC being a "mini NFL."

They'll have to enable a salary cap or College Football will go the way of MLB.
 

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I feel like the people who see this as a negative were people ignorantly expecting everything to fall in to place this week. This isn't getting sorted out for a long time, the only thing that may speed things up is ESPN facing the facts and settling.
 
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The media sure hates to be criticized. Maybe that's why they suck. I hope to find out that Jamie Pollard and ISU were instrumental providing the evidence of all this.
 
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The only outcome this letter benefits is keeping the 8 remaining teams together. Who will want to have conversations to add ISU or anyone else? This seems to be about ESPN and the AAC but I’d imagine it also applies to the BIG and PAC. Am I wrong?

For now, yes, it puts moves on hold. Until the money storm is settled. Once that happens, then its open season. Discussions will be happening anyway, with JP levels of stealth bomber secrecy, behind very closed doors.

Would be interesting to put an over/under on when it gets settled. I still would think they will sort something out so OuT are in the SEC next year. Which means they have to settle it by, what, spring at the latest?
 
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Great time for Big 12 to replace OU and TU with 2-4 other schools and sign GoR to Netflix or Amazon. Probably won’t happen, but would be a great FU to ESPN.

Really, so long ESPN gets OU and Texas to the SEC while not having to pay for the remnants of the Big 12, that'd be an even bigger win for them. Getting OU and Texas to the SEC is probably vastly profitable for them, and the whole reason why they want to do this.
 

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Each of the remaining 8's towns also needs to get in on a lawsuit for lost revenue.

How much income do the businesses in Ames get because of Big12 sports? I bet it is a lot
 
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The media sure hates to be criticized. Maybe that's why they suck. I hope to find out that Jamie Pollard and ISU were instrumental providing the evidence of all this.

Why? If we were the snitch no conference is going to touch us.
 
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I think at the very least we'll start seeing NFL on Saturdays. ESPN talking heads are already spouting off about the SEC being a "mini NFL."

The NFL would certainly draw better than whatever college game was on, but would it draw as well as if were on a different night/day of the week?

I don't think the NFL (or more importantly their tv partners, one of which is ESPN) is interested in getting 75% of the viewing audience they would get on Sunday just to get into a pissing match with college football. Because if that wink/nod agreement the NFL and college football cuts both ways. If the NFL starts putting games on Saturday, college football starts putting games on Sunday. Obviously, they won't draw the ratings the NFL would, but they'll cut into the NFL viewing audience. All this would do is make both leagues less profitable.
 

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I feel like the people who see this as a negative were people ignorantly expecting everything to fall in to place this week. This isn't getting sorted out for a long time, the only thing that may speed things up is ESPN facing the facts and settling.
I get that sense too. Time is our best friend right now if nothing else to slow down the deluge of easy negativity surrounding the big 12. We can't just keep taking 100 percent of the blows with two hands tied behind our back and hope for a miracle.

The perception that we are a charity case is too widespread right now, even though it's not true at all. We need time to allow that to change. We need to establish even the most modest of footing and push back so that those working toward our hasty demise have to put themselves out there to some degree. We aren't even asking for a future beyond 2025. We have every right defend our current GoR timeline. We all agree a miracle life raft would solve all our problems and we should take it if it comes. But we can't allow our only two options to be miracle life raft or catastrophic nothing.

Advocating for a quick solution does nothing to make a miracle more likely, so it's naive and self-destructive to shoot down other likely more realistic avenues that keep us as far away from catastrophe as possible. We can't fool ourselves into thinking we're doing something by completely submitting to the prevailing narrative that is and will be pushed hard. For sure it's entirely possible if not probably that narrative will win out, but why should we let it take years instead of months if it turns out there's no quick good outcomes.

Do we really want to be drowning in debt slashing everything in a non P5 situation 2 years down the road certain we were shoe-ins for the big 10 and got screwed, shaking our fists at the world when we could have put it off for 4 years, winning big games and potentially a real title along the way? if that's our fate, as so many outsiders gleefully proclaim, why hasten that demise given what we have to work with right now?

EDIT: I truly hope none of this matters and we are in the B10 tomorrow.
 
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Nail em to the bloody wall. These ******** have dictated enough. Keep going take em to the cleaners.
 

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I get that sense too. Time is our best friend right now if nothing else to slow down the deluge of easy negativity surrounding the big 12. We can't just keep taking 100 percent of the blows with two hands tied behind our back and hope for a miracle.

Perhaps...but the guys recruiting our football players sure as hell want this resolved yesterday.
 

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I get that sense too. Time is our best friend right now if nothing else to slow down the deluge of easy negativity surrounding the big 12. We can't just keep taking 100 percent of the blows with two hands tied behind our back and hope for a miracle.

The perception that we are a charity case is too widespread right now, even though it's not true at all. We need time to allow that to change. We need to establish even the most modest of footing and push back so that those working toward our hasty demise have to put themselves out there to some degree. We aren't even asking for a future beyond 2025. We have every right defend our current GoR timeline. We all agree a miracle life raft would solve all our problems and we should take it if it comes. But we can't allow our only two options to be miracle life raft or catastrophic nothing.

Advocating for a quick solution does nothing to make a miracle more likely, so it's naive and self-destructive to shoot down other likely more realistic avenues that keep us as far away from catastrophe as possible. We can't fool ourselves into thinking we're doing something by completely submitting to the prevailing narrative that is and will be pushed hard. For sure it's entirely possible if not probably that narrative will win out, but why should we let it take years instead of months if it turns out there's no quick good outcomes.

Do we really want to be drowning in debt slashing everything in a non P5 situation 2 years down the road certain we were shoe-ins for the big 10 and got screwed, shaking our fists at the world when we could have put it off for 4 winning big games and potentially a real title along the way? if that's our fate, as so many outsiders gleefully proclaim, why hasten that demise given what we have to work with right now?

EDIT: I truly hope none of this matters and we are in the B10 tomorrow.
Amen. This is being spun as the leftover 8 having nothing to lose and desperately pushing all chips to the middle of the table. I look it as punching back against a false narrative and insisting that reality and the truth have a voice. If these dumb asses in charge of the SEC and ESPN get their way, they're going to kill college football. If they take us out, there's about 30-40 more programs that are going to get screwed out of their current existence in the next 3-5 years. As someone said earlier, it's time for war. This sleazy backstabbing structure needs to be destroyed and something better put in its place.
 

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