Kansas to Big 10?

CloniesForLife

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I live in Minnesota for 5 years, it's true, they do like us. They have a soft spot for us for some reason. They freaking hate Iowa though.
Lots of alumni in the cities and lots of MN kids go to Iowa State. Plus we hate Iowa too so there's a good bond. I also think being in a different conference but being close by probably makes us easier to cheer for.
 
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I live in Minnesota for 5 years, it's true, they do like us. They have a soft spot for us for some reason. They freaking hate Iowa though.

There's a lot of alums from Minnesota. I knew at least 6 from when I was at ISU. Didn't we have a reciprocity agreement with UM for a while for in-state tuition? or am I making that up?
 

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I live in Minnesota for 5 years, it's true, they do like us. They have a soft spot for us for some reason. They freaking hate Iowa though.
I think it basically comes down to the fact that our fans are generally boisterous but good-natured and fun. Iowa fans are obnoxious, rude, and destructive.

Brian Ferentz will make a great Iowa fan once he's no longer coaching.
 

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There's a lot of alums from Minnesota. I knew at least 6 from when I was at ISU. Didn't we have a reciprocity agreement with UM for a while for in-state tuition? or am I making that up?
ISU offers a tuition discount to Minnesota residents. It lowers ISU's tuition for students from Minnesota to a point that it is generally less expensive than in-state tuition at the University of Minnesota.
 

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The BIG is currently likely in negotiations with FOX for 2023 new deal... It is estimated that the BIG total package will amount to around $800 Million a year or $57Mil per school..at 14 teams.

FOX does not assume all 14 teams are worth $57 mil annually. tOSU is prob worth $120mil a year...etc.. Same for every conference really.

But as a collective group total is likely around $800 mil. Now......

If the BIG adds say ISU/KU...prior to this new deal it is not going to still be $800 Mil it will be prob $850 Mil. ISU/KU doesnt add ZERO....LMAO. This is a low estimate for ISU/KU btw IMO.

$850 Mil with 16 teams is around $53mil.

So in theory that is $4mil less per BIG team. But wait.. ISU/KU will receive a partial share for let's say 7 years (see Nebraska, Rutgers etc..)...Half a share is $26.5 Mil per year for ISU and KU each.

Or...$800 mil left for remaining 14 teams roughly.. ZERO net loss for the BIG for first 7 years..

Add to that it is possible ISU/KU offer to provide the BIG with the Tx/Ou exit fees and penalites and you likely have ISU/KU not costing the BIG anything extra for a decade..

If the future is streaming and subscriptions which are likely based on fan enthusiasm etc.. Then adding ISU fball and KU bball is only going to add to the BIG a decade from now..

Unlike Rutgers and Maryland and several other BIG schools IMO.

I don’t expect a lot of people to see it now, which is what may hurt ISU in the current round of realignment, but in a decade or so ISU is going to be one of the top 15 to 20 most valuable programs outside of the blue bloods for TV contract negotiations. Top 30-40 overall, which by the way includes most of the other Big 12 schools.

Cable TV is dying, folks. Even the YouTube TVs of the world are going to have to adapt. People don’t turn on TBS to watch their favorite show at 7pm anymore. They catch it on a streaming service. My kids are 9-14 and don’t even know what ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX are. Sure they’ve heard of it and know that they have something to do with TV shows, but that’s it. My oldest daughter will literally ask me why I’m watching ads when she comes into the room during a commercial break.

Live sports and baby boomers are keeping 24/7 TV alive. Eventually most of those channels are going to shut down and migrate their programming to their own apps, which will be on demand with maybe some live streams.

College football TV contracts of the future will be about which fans bases will pay $100 or $200 a year or whatever for a subscription to an app so they can watch their teams play. Paid attendance rankings are a pretty good indicator of which fan bases will have the most subscribers.
 

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I agree that the general concept would be ISU and KU take reduced shares (maybe deeply reduced payout shares) for a significant length of time such that the existing B1G universities never experience a drop in their TV money for adding us. Of course as long as the money is enough to keep the AD afloat and pay Matt Campbell we would happily do whatever it took to get into the B1G.
Let's be realistic. If we bring in CFP and Bowl income, we should negotiate a percent to Iowa State to offset this ridiculous objective of compromising to be accepted.
 

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According to the latest numbers, ISU is the 43rd most valuable athletic department. If we were to go to the AAC or Mountain West, we would increase the value of those conferences some, but if very many schools are left behind, there will be a lot of destruction of value for the sport as a whole. I'm not convinced Texas as an SEC team is worth any more than Texas as a Big XII school nor do I think Alabama becomes more valuable because Texas and Oklahoma are in the league. There will be a net loss of fans. Somebody needs to be able to figure this out.
 
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Here is the latest list of where ISU graduates are living. Most still live in Iowa, but we do have a lot in Texas, Illinois and Minnesota.

ISU Alumni Association - Alumni & Members
11k in Illinois? There were more than half that number at the Rosemont Horizon against Illinois in 1983! I was there and it's no exaggeration. Those are, merely, 'registered' alumni. The number is significantly higher than that. To which the article in the Chicago Tribune the following day said it seemed like a 'home' game for Iowa State. Not Illinois.
 

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11k in Illinois? There were more than half that number at the Rosemont Horizon against Illinois in 1983! I was there and it's no exaggeration. Those are, merely, 'registered' alumni. The number is significantly higher than that. To which the article in the Chicago Tribune the following day said it seemed like a 'home' game for Iowa State. Not Illinois.

Illinois seems like an away football venue we'd easily take over.
 

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Made some adjustments.....as I peruse other boards, here is the perception people outside of Iowa State are saying about us. Not saying this is right, but it is what I hear and what we are up against.

Willfully uninformed fans are not an accurate indication of how we are perceived by those making real decisions about realignment.
 

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After we get our $millions from ESPN, we can afford to take a couple million a year from the Big ! ;) ;)
 

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