Kansas to Big 10?

Cyclones1969

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I think we have a lot of fans like this. They tend to fall into one of two camps. The first are the fatalist, nutcup “we are ISU” losers. The others are the clowns that actually have some odd sense of pride over having good tailgating for a ******* football teams. These are the sit in the parking lot and drink beer and miss half of the third quarter guys.

I don’t think that’s the case here. I know we have a lot of older folks mad that they had to pay actual money to support a division 1 program, and they haven’t forgiven pollard for taking away premium seating season tickets for 200/yr

this isn’t that. This is someone relishing the idea that we are nothing, and hopes we get demoted. Their whole argument is literally what hawk fans try to run.

imagine being so committed to hating on a team you supposedly root for, you spend post after post denigrating them.
 
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But not one single person living in Phoenix knew Iowa State was playing in the fiesta bowl, and the only reason people watched the game was because of Oregon. He knows this because he lives there.

imagine what a loser that guy has to be in real life
Yeah that’s such a stupid take lol
 
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If recruiting keeps staying hot like it is then that’s a sign in my eyes. If recruits keep committing to Campbell/TJ/Fennelly over other big ten/SEC/PAC schools that’s a positive sign.
 
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If this is true, I’d sure like to know more.
I cant definitively comment, but my nephew was just choosing between ISU and Minny and the cost was basically the same per my sister.

He starts at Minny in a few weeks! Sad face, i was hoping he would go here obviously.
 

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The B1G already tried competitive balance divisions and it was a disaster. They switched to geographic from Legends and Leaders.
There wasn't the potential for an 8 or 12 team playoff back then.

As conferences expand to 16-20 teams the goal of the SEC & Big10 will be getting 4-5 teams in a 12 team playoff.

Having 4 divisions can basically be the same as current 2 division format, by having the OSU and Mich division play each year. But optics will be important and Big10 can says a 9-3 Michigan won their division.

Also, with the $ that ESPN (has) and FOX (will be) throwing around in the next renewal, we may see everyone play 13 games. For some schools it may be a CCG, for remaining schools a plus 1.

Also the days of SEC playing 8 conference games is over. Networks are going to want best matchup- so 10 or 11 conference games could become norm.
 

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That’s why Pods make more sense. You would play everyone in the conference at least every two years, and once at home every 4.

Plus the potential for a semi final round for the conference championship, which those two games would likely add some $$$ to the pot.

I don't think you would create a two game conf championship (at least you wouldn't have to). If you consolidate into a power division with no games against fcs, or non-power teams I guess this could happen by eliminating 1 or 2 non-conf games.

If you have 4 pods, you simply pair two pods each season. So, make it easy...

North
South
East
West

N+S play each other for two season (home and away, 7 game total each year); N teams would play two games each vs. E (home, away), S teams play 2 games each vs. W (home, away)
W+E do the same.

In year 3 the "partner: divisions change:

N+W play each other home and away. The N still plays the E but now they change to the two teams they did not play during the previous two years. S&W do the same.

In the end Every team plays each other home and away over a 4 year period and you have temporary divisions that change every two years so you can still have a championship match up between two 8 team divisions.
 
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I don't think you would create a two game conf championship (at least you wouldn't have to). If you consolidate into a power division with no games against fcs, or non-power teams I guess this could happen by eliminating 1 or 2 non-conf games.

If you have 4 pods, you simply pair two pods each season. So, make it easy...

North
South
East
West

N+S play each other for two season (home and away, 7 game total each year); N teams would play two games each vs. E (home, away), S teams play 2 games each vs. W (home, away)
W+E do the same.

In year 3 the "partner: divisions change:

N+W play each other home and away. The N still plays the E but now they change to the two teams they did not play during the previous two years. S&W do the same.

In the end Every team plays each other home and away over a 4 year period and you have temporary divisions that change every two years so you can still have a championship match up between two 8 team divisions.

It makes total sense, outside of the need for certain cash cow rivalry games to be played every year to satisfy TV and fan bases.

Ideally, the best competitive situation is two divisions, weighted fairly evenly, with the top two brands in opposite divisions poised to meet in the CCG. Once teams demand a cross division rivalry game get played every year it all falls apart pretty quickly.
 

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It makes total sense, outside of the need for certain cash cow rivalry games to be played every year to satisfy TV and fan bases.

Ideally, the best competitive situation is two divisions, weighted fairly evenly, with the top two brands in opposite divisions poised to meet in the CCG. Once teams demand a cross division rivalry game get played every year it all falls apart pretty quickly.

Yes... but you should be able to solve the "must play every year" issue with the 4 team pods. For example:

1) OSU, Mich, MSU, Rut
3) PSU, Ind, Pur, MD
3) Ill, NW, team 15, team 16
4) Neb, Wis, Min, ia

You could have every key rivalry /in-state rivalry played each year - you get ind, pur in the same pod (no need for cross over guarantee). *IF* (best case scenario), ISU and ND are in, then maybe you switch out ISU ("team 15") and Neb... (Neb + ND with ill, NW), ISU in pod 4.

Point is, you can make it work much better and everyone plays every team in the conf home and away. Having 2, 8 team divisions means you don't play someone in your conference for years.. an athlete can spend a full 4 yrs playing and never step foot on a "conference" opponents campus.
 

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Try switching hands. It might help.
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