IOWA STATE TO BIG TEN?!? Dave Wannstedt thinks so.

[cyIclSoneU]

Agree. And to say this was a charade or meaningless because it doesn't involve contracts or legally binding agreements... well, OuT were contractually obligated to not ditch the Big 12. How'd that work out?

Their contracts exist through 2025 and they’re keeping them here unless they pay $$$ to break them, so I’d say they’re holding up pretty well.

Same with the ACC’s GOR into 2035 - if contracts were meaningless, Clemson/FSU could double their money in the SEC too. But the contract says no.

It comes off as really immature for these three commishes to say “We did a handshake” when all 40 of their schools will do a 20-page contract to have Western State Tech A&M come play one basketball game eight years from now. It’s because contracts work.

I think the Alliance is so premature that a written statement would have been way better than the dumb press conference the commissioners tried to do, because it has so much work left before being ready for prime time.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

SECESPN - pronounced CESSPEN!

sounds like an STD.

 

[BryceC]

So you actually believe all that other reporting?

What other reporting? You're being really unspecific here.

 

[jdoggivjc]

This is certainly the case. If anything is going to happen for ISU to the B1G, there are only a handful of people that have any knowledge of what is being said or has been said. And I'm sure any of that information, if anyone at ISU has any knoledge of, has been placed under lock and key with a strict no talk policy. Also, there is no reason for the ACC, B1G or PAC to do anything spur of the moment. Their best bet is to let this play out and see what happens. Without the Big 12 falling apart, they could be in the same boat as the SEC if any real legal issues come out of this.

So, unless you hear someone from the B1G, Pollard or Wintersteen, it's all just speculation at this point. Dave may as well be my neighbor who thinks ISU would be a good fit in the B1G. I wouldn't doubt if ISU maybe tested the waters with the B1G, but I'd be surprised if anything was said either way at this point. I just don't see any real information coming out until it's settled what OU and UT are going to have to pay to play in the SEC next year.

The only reason why I want to give Wannstadt the benefit of the doubt is because he's speaking from a FOX perspective, which is something that we've all been talking about since the day after OuT "left". But you're absolutely right - unit any of the Big 10, Pollard or Wintersteen make any official statements, this is all talk and speculation. It's just nice to get some "good news" for a change.

 

[mattyheiden]

I would think Michigan State as well.

ISU/MN/Nebraska/IL/Purdue/PSU/Wisky and MSU would be quite the collaboration

 

[CascadeClone]

With the constitutional crisis upcoming, this also seems like the early makings of a framework to replace an NCAA that losing ground by the day. Tournaments, shared values, alignment on governance, etc.

I’m not so sure that we will see the full demise of the NCAA, but it is clear that the current leadership is toothless, inconsistent, and losing influence. This move puts a large group of players on the same side of the fence.

Some people have made comparisons for the conferences as WWII powers. Big 12 as Poland is about as accurate as it gets. If it’s as loose as it seems, this Alliance might just end up being the UN.

Could totally see the high-minded B1G, PAC, and (lesser extent) ACC try to carry the fire for a revamped NCAA here - be the "good guys".

 

[Cyclones1969]

What other reporting? You're being really unspecific here.

All of the various stories out there from different sources. Athletic espn etc

 

[BCClone]

ESPN and fox aren’t reporting stuff because it sheds shade on them. Besides ESPN thought they had it but the R8 paused and are now bending ESPN over. Fox was probably caught off guard by ESPN and figuring things out themselves.

 

[Gonzo]

Their contracts exist through 2025 and they’re keeping them here unless they pay $$$ to break them, so I’d say they’re holding up pretty well.

Same with the ACC’s GOR into 2035 - if contracts were meaningless, Clemson/FSU could double their money in the SEC too. But the contract says no.

It comes off as really immature for these three commishes to say “We did a handshake” when all 40 of their schools will do a 20-page contract to have Western State Tech A&M come play one basketball game eight years from now. It’s because contracts work.

I think the Alliance is so premature that a written statement would have been way better than the dumb press conference the commissioners tried to do, because it has so much work left before being ready for prime time.

There's no way OuT will be in the Big 12 beyond this season. And I'd doubt they end up paying the amount that the GoR mandates them to pay.

 

[CyberCy79]

Mount Rushmore of Football

Belichick
Saban
Lombardi
Wannstedt

Where’s Campbell?

 

[AuH2O]

One finish in the top 10 and one preseason top 10 ranking does not make us a "Top 10 program". We need to pump the brakes a little bit on the status of our football program...especially while disparaging other programs. We've played in one NY6 bowl game, have never won a conference championship, have only ever played in one conference championship game, etc. We do not have much history of success, and no history of sustained success. We are one CMC leaving away from going back to 3-9 and 4-8 seasons. There have been numerous flash-in-the-pan programs, and right now that is the perception of ISU. If we can finish in or around the Top 10 this year and next, AND retain CMC, then we can start talking about sustained success.

Yeah, and Oklahoma won 4 games/year under John Blake. Texas won 5, 5 and 6 under Charlie Strong, Alabama had 3 and 4 win seasons under Mike DuBose and Mike Shula. Michigan had 3 and 5 win seasons under RichRod. Notre Dame had a bunch of 5-6 win seasons under three consecutive coaches. LSU had 4-5 win seasons with Gerry DiNardo. Miami had a bunch of 5-7 win seasons under Coker, Shannon and Golden. Tennessee has been winning 5 games most years for the past decade. Florida State has won 21 games in the last four years.

Every team is a bad hire away from a 3, 4, 5 win season. Every team is a good hire away from 8+ win seasons. Every flash in the pan program occurs because a coach gets success then bolts for greener pastures. For those that don't, they turn good seasons into good programs. For those that bolt, they usually bolt either as quickly as they can leverage it (i.e. Saban from MSU), or they go until they feel they simply can't compete for titles at their school.

College football has proven over and over again, that there are a small handful of schools that can hire about whoever they want that are about as surefire to succeed as you can get. After that, the rest of our schools need to make good, tough decisions on coaching hires.

 

[Trice]

From what I've seen, there is no reporting on this.

You have Wanny saying something happened at the Fox meetings. You have no reporters or sourced individuals saying this. You've got one guy. That's not reporting, that heresay IMO, and he was hardly the only guy in those meetings. Again, when UT and OU went down, within the same day, we had all kinds of sports reporters confirming it and comments from heavy hitters within the conferences. We don't have any of that in this case. Again, if we get ACTUAL reporting on this, I'll change my tune.

I think this is the correct take. I realize it's been a busy day in college football but nobody of significance in sports media has taken the bait on Wannstedt's comments. Given how quickly they pounce whenever there's a chance to tell us how worthless we are, that suggests to me that they don't take his comments seriously enough to warrant a response.

 

[Pope]

Just now saw the rest of what Wannstedt said, for what it's worth:

"There’ll be a few schools — the Texas Techs, the TCU’s — that right now no one knows what they’re gonna do. Unfortunately, this is what it said — it said the Big 12 is talking, ‘Oh, we’re all together on this.’ But they’re not. It’s really when that thing happened with Texas and Oklahoma, everybody is pretty much on their own. I think this news today just verifies it and makes it real clear now that there is no Big 12 being mentioned anywhere.”

“There’s just a lot of uncertainty, and it’s moving awful fast," Wannstedt said. "That’s the scary thing. I’ll be quiet after this. What college football does not have is a commissioner. They do not have one voice. Every commissioner from every conference is always doing their own thing. In the NFL, there are a lot of different opinions but Roger Goodell is the guy. We know who it is in basketball, we know who it is in baseball. Right now, there’s nobody that has the last say and the voice of college football. That, to me, in my opinion — that’s the first thing that needs to be addressed.”

 

[CloneJD]

There's no way OuT will be in the Big 12 beyond this season. And I'd doubt they end up paying the amount that the GoR mandates them to pay.

I think it’ll be close to full amount unless espn/sec/big12 come to some grand agreement that benefits everyone. I see that as most likely outcome.

 

[everyyard]

SECESPN - pronounced CESSPEN!

Take out the p and looks a lot like secession.

 

[jdoggivjc]

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That almost sounds like ESPN is beginning to freak out a little bit that they're losing control of the narrative.

 

[jdoggivjc]

For those wondering about the significance of 41.

Pac-12: 12
+B1G: 14
+ACC: 14
+ND: 1
= 41

You're good at the maths.

 

[JM4CY]

That almost sounds like ESPN is beginning to freak out a little bit that they're losing control of the narrative.

Because they are. Anyone with half a brain can see they are ruining college football

 

[cyIclSoneU]

There's no way OuT will be in the Big 12 beyond this season. And I'd doubt they end up paying the amount that the GoR mandates them to pay.

If your first sentence is correct, the fact that they will pay anything means the contract worked. And I’m not convinced it’s correct, especially if the other power leagues are not going to take the 8. They have no incentive to settle, and every reason to stick UT and OU to the contract, if the alternative is elevating American schools and trying to live as the clear #5 league in $$$.

 

[Rogue52]

If I had to guess, Iowa City believes Dave Wannstedt is the worst coach in the history of football today?