IOWA STATE TO BIG TEN?!? Dave Wannstedt thinks so.
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The difference is the channel tier.
Inside the footprint, BTN (through Fox) could force itself onto the basic cable tier, where everybody had to pay for it -- whether they watched or not.
Outside the footprint, BTN was relegated to the sports tier, where it was optional -- therefore only the people that wanted to watch paid for it.
Forcing millions of people to pay for something is much more profitable than only charging the willing.
Having schools in those states allowed the Big Ten to get BTN on basic cable in those markets so they could charge more per subscriber.
What is it that they are actually reporting?
They made this alliance thing seem like it was the iron clad agreement. What did the agreements actually say?
They are reporting nothing more than what conferences want them to at this point. They have different journalists they filter messaging through. Believing one over the other at this point is equal folly.
........and, well maybe Dave agrees the airport was too far away for Paul to be successful. So there!
I’m not sure why everyone thinks that the angry 8 are just going to ride out the GOR either. There is a serious opportunity cost there just to stick it to UT and OU. If most teams have a soft lucrative landing spot (they will) they will settle for a smaller buyout and move on.
You do realize every legal contract can be changed and negotiated, right? If they go to the bargaining table and a settlement is reached they can agree to whatever they want and change or amend the contract. The only way is if one side does not agree, then the other side must sweeten the deal, and so on. That is how mediation works.
Ahh, we're talking about different things.
I'm talking about Dave Wannstadt and his comments today, which is what this thread is about.
You're talking about the Big 10/ACC/Pac12 Alliance, which have nothing to do with each other.
They will all have a number they will accept to receive and to pay
nothing will happen until this part is done. The other conferences have no problems waiting for the big 12 extract what they can out of the schools and Disney.
This is about maintaining their way of life. They will let the process all play out. Don’t be surprised if the announcements of the exit fee and gor settlements are followed with realignment within a week
Actually I’m just talking about the reporting through all of this.
Wannstadt may or may not know anything from sitting in a meeting (guessing he really doesn’t) But the reports that have leaked out over the last few weeks are just as dubious.
Until JP denies Big Dave's claims, I'm going with-- there's something to it.
He's more connected than anybody on this board, so Dave's take holds a little more weight than the fluff posters on CF.
He's more connected than anybody on this board, so Dave's take holds a little more weight than the fluff posters on CF.
The lesson from the Nebraska/Rutgers/Maryland experience with BTN buy-ins: negotiate a firm dollar amount rather than accepting a decreased percentage of years of conference payouts to “buy-in.” As the amount of TV payments has increased the “buy-in” reduction percentage has been applied against an increasing conference payout. Those schools likely paid many times what the initial dollar amount would have been. (Although I don’t think the buy-in hard dollar amout was ever disclosed.)
Rutgers and Maryland compounded their problem by borrowing against future earnings to pay for other things (former conference buy-outs, team travel expense etc)
Rutgers and Maryland compounded their problem by borrowing against future earnings to pay for other things (former conference buy-outs, team travel expense etc)
That's only if both sides are willing to agree to arbitration. SECSPN can sweeten the deal all they want, but if at the end of the road all that really happens is the AAC is getting 8 new members, why the hell would the 8 schools settle for anything less than full compensation?
That's the whole point in this whole thing - it has to be worth it to amend the contract.
Like everything, most claims need to be examined on their own merits. Again, Dave is the only source for what he's claiming and it's really specific. It hasn't been confirmed by anybody else.
The alliance stuff was billed in some places as being a total game changer. It's not. It's conferences that agreed to a handshake deal to do some scheduling agreement stuff. However, the alliance did happen and the conferences did meet. It's just not as earth shattering as some people would have led us to believe. It's a completely different situation if you ask me.
If you think the Big 12 remaining 8 are going to sit on their hands until 2025, just to stick it to UT/OU and not leave themselves an out, by planning and negotiating on their own you are way off base. They remaining 8 have to go to the table just as much as OU/TX because they know they have to plan themselves for what to do after. You cant just hold fast and then in 2025 say now what.
The remaining 8 have to negotiate and have to work on something whatever that is for the future. And just saying they wont do anything or plan anything until 2025 and they get money from OU/TX because of the GoR or spite will never happen.
It is in everyone's best interest to negotiate, including the remaining 8.
This is well thought out and I think will be how this all plays out. With no landing spot, the Angry 8 want to drag this out and collect as much money as possible. With a landing spot, everyone goes on their merry way next year.
Everyone says the Big 12 holds no cards. Maybe not long term but they definitely do short term. “Find us all spots in P4 conferences or we’ll drag this out and make everyone’s lives miserable. Plus we’ll sue ESPN.”
I've already made clear I don't think this conference is lasting the entire GOR. I've also made clear that this isn't going to be cheap like SECSPN is hoping. They may get a break in what the contract states, but they're going to feel pain that weeks ago they were hoping they weren't going to have to feel.
