Also, there’s nothing that says they can’t negotiate and agree to a deal that starts AFTER 2025, with the contingency that if OU/UT/The SEC buy out earlier, they’ll move to the new conferences earlier.
IOWA STATE TO BIG TEN?!? Dave Wannstedt thinks so.
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Another article saying the Big 10 isn’t going to expand. It’s all just a guessing game at this point.
The bolded sentence above is just simply incorrect. The Remaining 8 don't have to "go to the table" with OU/UT so that they can plan their future. It is most certainly not in the Remaining 8's best interest to negotiate down their settlement if they are staring at a reduction in income of $20,000,000+ per school per year for the next decade or more.
If the R8 have been offered a happy home after 2025, there is no reason to negotiate, unless their new homes want them to come early. If the R8 don't have happy homes after 2025, and have to expand to rebuild the conference, that is going to take 2-3 years, and there is no reason to negotiate down.
They did fine until they hired a mediocre coach in Riley and a guy totally in over his head in Frost. They would be sucking in the Big 12, which has been substantially better than the Big 10 west every year.
Dave Wannstedt is not the sharpest cheese in the fridge, nor was he an awesome coach at any level really.
But Dave Wannstedt is highly, highly connected in the community of college and pro football. I forget if it was Paul Rhoads or Chris Williams (forgive me if you didn't say this Chris), that Wannstedt might know more AD's, head coaches in college, and pro people collectively more than anyone almost.
Oh, and God I hope this is true.
This is truly the part that people don’t seem to understand. For the next 4 years, the conference does have power.
Espn and the sec didn’t do all this to let ou and ut not be in the league next year. But there is a contract they are bound by til 2025.
Part of getting the schools out, and not having them have to testify under oath, may very well be big payouts to help the remaining schools pay their entrance fees to their new leagues.
I feel that this gets missed a lot. This is essentially what OU and Texas have done. As of right now, they don’t owe the Big 12 the television revenue, unless they leave before 2025. They only owe the Big 12 the penalty for breaking conference rules. I don’t think they technically broken the GOR because they plan on staying until it ends.
I don’t think they plan on staying until 2025. They plan on the conference crumbling before then. Other teams finding a home and then announcing where they’re going but that they aren’t moving until 2025 would essentially be calling the bluff of OU/UT/SEC.
I just know one thing for sure.
I might pop off on someone the next time I hear the phrase “getting a seat at the big boy’s table”.
I might pop off on someone the next time I hear the phrase “getting a seat at the big boy’s table”.
This guy has consistently labeled the R8 as "have nots" but offers no reasons why. He wants a Power 57 rather than a Power 64. Bowlsby should find a way to sue his ass. He is clearly up to no good.
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Big Ten unlikely to expand
Perhaps the most notable big-picture takeaway was that the Big Ten appears committed to not expanding. Obviously, nothing was signed. But it’s hard to believe that the presidents and chancellors would agree to this extended Kumbaya chorus if the Big Ten planned on poaching a few Pac-12 schools or breaking the ACC’s grant of rights in the next year or two.
That could all change if the league’s alphas – Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin – change course. But for now, the hymn of solidarity is being sung loudly. When asked specifically if this meant the Big Ten had no interest in expansion, commissioner Kevin Warren told Yahoo Sports: “We feel very comfortable in the Big Ten that we’re in good position where we are.”
He added: “We feel like we have an incredibly powerful group of 14 institutions. We like the number where are right now in the Big Ten.”
of Thamel story.
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Big Ten unlikely to expand
Perhaps the most notable big-picture takeaway was that the Big Ten appears committed to not expanding. Obviously, nothing was signed. But it’s hard to believe that the presidents and chancellors would agree to this extended Kumbaya chorus if the Big Ten planned on poaching a few Pac-12 schools or breaking the ACC’s grant of rights in the next year or two.
That could all change if the league’s alphas – Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin – change course. But for now, the hymn of solidarity is being sung loudly. When asked specifically if this meant the Big Ten had no interest in expansion, commissioner Kevin Warren told Yahoo Sports: “We feel very comfortable in the Big Ten that we’re in good position where we are.”
He added: “We feel like we have an incredibly powerful group of 14 institutions. We like the number where are right now in the Big Ten.”
Totally agree that was the original plan. They were planning on the Big 12 panicking and crumbling. However, their plan got out sooner than they wanted and their plan foiled.
But to your original point, it doesn’t prevent conferences finding a home and saying they will join after 2025, so long they let the Big 12 know they are looking.
So you think OuT wasn't in contact with the SEC prior to 24hrs of notifying the Big XII?
If the H8 are destined for G6 status, there’s no reason to give up our rights to OUTs media. Just announce the future additions that will be joining in 2025 and don’t even come to the negotiating table unless Disney offers some astronomical number.
If that’s our fate, dragging this out until 25 is the least of our problems. There would be no benefit to accept a settlement so that we can “move on” if moving on means G5 obscurity. The only way we’ll see a reduced settlement is if a majority of us find a landing spot. That’s it.
If that’s our fate, dragging this out until 25 is the least of our problems. There would be no benefit to accept a settlement so that we can “move on” if moving on means G5 obscurity. The only way we’ll see a reduced settlement is if a majority of us find a landing spot. That’s it.
I think he does think that and that’s why he said they owe the penalty for breaking conference rules.
I’m not rich but you can’t pay me enough to read stories about this. I’ve read none and will read none.
I have heard some quotes from Paul Feinbaum and he pisses me off. Super obvious he works for the SEC network. He pretty much says continuously if you are not in the SEC, are Clemson, or Ohio State you are a joke.
