Pac-12 to decide whether to expand within a couple weeks

CascadeClone

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If the big ten is at 80 when we join, I would say we would need to be at our current level for 5 years or so. 20 would be a 75% cut and way more than other team was cut going in. You can't use Rutgers and Maryland as examples since their ADs were in bk area when they joined. We are financially healthy right now.

Oh agree. I was just trying to worst case it and show it was still best way to go. Its really hard to imagine a B1G deal that is so bad that a Big12/ACC mashup is better in any term longer than like 2 years.
 

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The reduced share wouldn't be a forever thing. Once ISU arrived at the full share, I'm guessing they'd think it was worth it.

I think the inference is that tOSU isn’t going to want to keep making all of the money for the league but getting the same amount as the lower tier teams like Rutgers, MD, NU, Iowa, NW, IL, etc.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Agree. I'd be doing the same thing if I were you.
If we do land in the big ten after this year and we have a season where we are in the CCG (especially if we win it); how ticked off will the Iowa fans be when OSU has the schedules moved around so they can play ISU right away?
 

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I think the inference is that tOSU isn’t going to want to keep making all of the money for the league but getting the same amount as the lower tier teams like Rutgers, MD, NU, Iowa, NW, IL, etc.
Hey, Michigan, PSU and Wisconsin make the conference money too. Don't give tOSU ALL the credit.
 

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That doesn't project quiet confidence. That projects a statement made from a position of weakness.
There's zero reason to have any confidence if you are tasked with leading the Big 12 as an entity. It's either dissolving or it's poaching the top of the AAC.
 

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Nick Saban said he thinks Bama should only play against P5 opponents and starting in 2027 their non conference schedule only has P5 teams so maybe he is good at his word in influencing that kind of schedule. This is just food for thought regarding whether SEC teams will be playing G5 or FCS teams in the future.

Notice it will start after he’s likely to be retired. Man, that must have taken a lot of guts to support:roll eyes:
 

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There's zero reason to have any confidence if you are tasked with leading the Big 12 as an entity. It's either dissolving or it's poaching the top of the AAC.
I agree, but there is a certain segment on here that likes to think the lack of statements from Bowlsby has been a sign of quiet confidence. This does not look like that at all.
 

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If we do land in the big ten after this year and we have a season where we are in the CCG (especially if we win it); how ticked off will the Iowa fans be when OSU has the schedules moved around so they can play ISU right away?

They wouldn't. They'd avoid you. Like they avoid us.
 
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This whole approach by the PAC-12 is strange. If their intent is to expand, what would be the point of announcing the intent publicly before it’s a done deal?

This is why I agree with previous posters who are expecting a vague “no expansion at this particular moment” type of announcement.

And if that is the answer either way, what is the purpose of having any announcement at all?
 

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They wouldn't. They'd avoid you. Like they avoid us.

If the B1G expanded I would like to see them do some kind of 3 protected rivals + 5 of the remaining 12 each year scheduling philosophy. I’ve seen this floated for the SEC. Then top 2 records meet in the CCG.

Iowa plays Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa State annually plus 5 of the other 12. ISU plays Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas plus 5 of 12. Etc. 6 of 12 is cleaner but if the B1G goes to 8 conference games it can do a better Alliance.
 

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Duh!
Yeah but UCF was left out of the CFP when it went undefeated in 2017. That's the price of playing in a second tier conference.
And those are three teams from large markets, success isn’t a coincidence.
 

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This whole approach by the PAC-12 is strange. If their intent is to expand, what would be the point of announcing the intent publicly before it’s a done deal?

This is why I agree with previous posters who are expecting a vague “no expansion at this particular moment” type of announcement.

And if that is the answer either way, what is the purpose of having any announcement at all?
The Big Ten put out a statement that they were considering adding a 12th member six months before they invited Nebraska.


 

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Nope. It’s two ”conferences” with a scheduling agreement. I’ve been saying that for years. Twelve-team conferences are workable; 14 teams are unwieldy; 16 is really problematic, and anything more than that is an unmanageable cluster-f.

Ten is ideal for scheduling purposes, but that doesn’t seem to be profitable enough for today’s “what’s the bottom line?” attitude.

It’s absolutely insane to me that the talk about expanding to mega-conferences is also including discussion of reducing the number of conference games. What the hell is your conference for if you’re not competing against the other members?
It's worked for the SEC for the past 12 years??
 

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